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Rear brake squeal is back!

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A few months ago, I posted issues with my brand new bike with a squealing back brake. I ended up losing my bike for a week while the dealer ordered/replaced the rotor and pads. All was good for about 3 weeks, now the squeal is back whenever I apply moderate rear braking. Also, a couple of weeks ago, my check engine and check chassis lights turned on. I took it into the dealer and they advised me that the bike had a ‘power surge’ which triggered the warning lights to come on. I hope I don’t sound anal-retentive, but a 2017 bike with 1,100 miles shouldn’t be having these kinds of issues! I don’t run the bike overly hard, I may 'gun it' for a short duration, but I definitely don’t abuse it or slam on my brakes (unless I have to) Most of the time, I downshift in conjunction with applying light braking to slow down.


I am about to take the bike back and demand a loaner bike, this is getting ridiculous. I am also about to write a letter to Indian questioning the quality of these sixty's.
 
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Mine squeals too. Dealer told push the brake harder. The glaze is bad on these I guess.

I'm going to replace the pads with Galfers this summer. Maybe a better rotor
 
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Yep, get on the rear brake pretty hard a few times when you just start a ride. Should eliminate the squeal for a while. Just jam on it again if it starts doing it later.

My bike stays outside because I don't have a garage, so I get a little surface rust on the rotor. First few stops, just use the rear brake only, and that usually keeps it from squealing for the whole ride. YMMV.
 
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Yep, get on the rear brake pretty hard a few times when you just start a ride. Should eliminate the squeal for a while. Just jam on it again if it starts doing it later.

My bike stays outside because I don't have a garage, so I get a little surface rust on the rotor. First few stops, just use the rear brake only, and that usually keeps it from squealing for the whole ride. YMMV.
Your idea of slamming on the rear brake does work….for a little while, then the squeal is right back again 50 miles later. I don’t know…I may be anal-retentive, but I find this totally unacceptable on a brand new bike with 1,100 miles on it!
 
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It bothers me and the dealer stated its not a warranty item. I can see that but I can also see it being a design flaw in the 21st century. Either way, I will put my own pads on
 
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I'll probably go with different pads when the time comes, or sooner if it starts bugging me. I have a feeling I'll be paying more attention to it after this thread, haha.
 
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Hey Steelo....If you think your dealer is going to give you a loaner, you are barking up the wrong tree !!! They don't have to and If they do, Please let me know !!!! Because I would be shocked !!!!! God Bless... Jayimpalaman
 
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I've noticed the brakes squealing on my Scout 60 maybe a dozen times in 12,000 miles - mainly the front although occasionally the rear - light rain has been a factor at least a couple of times. Perhaps the climate is different, or the dust from the road surface is different, or the traffic noise is different, or the way we use our brakes is different. Squealing brakes are certainly irritating, so it's worth thinking through what might be causing it. Frankly, I'd be more concerned about that 'power surge', and want to ask what caused that, and if it might happen again, and what other problems that might cause.
 
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I have a 2016 Sixty with same squealing issue. I took to dealer and they cleaned the disk. Was fine for about 10 miles. Do you think this is a design issue? How many Sixty and Scout buyers are having this problem?
 
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I've noticed the occasional squeal and front brake sort of (grind) on my Sixty the day I took it home. I returned to the dealer the following weekend and they indicated that the brakes were wearing normally. I don't pay too much attention to it now as I don't believe that it's a sign that anything is going bad. As near as I can tell, it's intermittent.
 
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I have about 400 miles on my '17 Scout Sixty and have the grinding noise and squeal in the fronts. It's more pronounced if I go slowly (5-10mph) and brake moderately hard to come to a complete stop. If I stop gently, there is no noise. I'm going to mention it to the technician when I bring it in for the first service. The rear brakes are fine as far as I can tell.
 
#21 ·
I'm not saying this is the case here or with any other squeal issue but it sorta seems like there's a lot of " new " riders and could that be the issue?

I have riden since before I could pedal a bike and I ride like it's stolen and I am usually " one " with the bike. Or at least make a good attempt and have never had any of these issues

As stated. Maybe get on the bike a little harder but don't drive or ride out of your comfort zone

If that's riding like a Sunday driver then perhaps the squeal will just be part of the result

Just a guess. Nothing other than experience
 
#22 ·
2017 Scout with 400 miles. Front rotor already replaced because it was warped. Front pads replaced with EBC HH pads, and rear pads have squealed from day one. Very loud, not to mention annoying.
 
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At auto parts store you can buy CRC brand product to help stop disc brake squeal. You remove the pads and apply a thin film, reinstall, let cure overnight. However going through the trouble of removing them, you may as well buy a better grade of disc brake pad and install them, problem solved. The OEM Paros are a compromise of braking ability and wear/life. If you install EBC pads they may not last as long but will stop with a better feel, maybe quicker too, IMO.
 
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Seeing this talked about again I thought I would mention how my Scout (not a 60) was getting very squeaky during this Spring and realized it hasn't been doing it anymore. In my case it must have been the tree pollen.
So if there isn't dust and pollen around I guess you have to look at those other reasons that have been talked about.
 
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#30 ·
Hi, if it’s anything like Car brake pads. The government awhile back mandated that OEM brake pads weren’t allowed to have asbestos in them. Asbestos made pads softer and squeak less. The aftermarket pads did not have to follow that law so they can have asbestos in them. Maybe that’s why they squeal
 
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Well Callbrett0,......the problem seems to be with the OEM brake pads, not the the aftermarket pads. Aftermarket pads have little to no asbestos. (think Kevlar, Sintered Bronze, and Carbon Fiber)

Brake squeal usually results from an harmonic frequency as the disk and pad wear-in together. Once properly worn-in (bedded-in) and there is no "glazing" on the friction surface of the pad, braking should be relatively vibration free.
 
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