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Discussion starter · #62 ·
Altho these are Harley WLA’s (you know how to tell the difference now, right?} I’m including them becuz they are some of the coolest combat op photo’s of bikes in WW2, and in my mind embody the common spirit we share with Harley : American-made v-motorcycles, fighting for our beloved nation. Same combat conditions, same mission, same sacrifices. God bless each of these warriors. WW1 photo’s will be posted tomorrow.

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Table 1 - Indian World War Two Motorcycles Accepted by Detroit Ordnance, US Army
The information below comes from "Summary Report of Acceptances, Tank-Automotive Material, 1940-1945"
Published by Army Services Forces, Office, Chief of Ordnance-Detroit, Production Division, Requirements and Progress Branch
January 21, 1946.​
Type
Indian Model
1940
1941
1942
1943
1944
1945
Total
45 Cu. In. Chain Drive​
45-640B​
507​
2,022​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2,531
45 Cu. In. Shaft Drive​
841​
0​
0​
667​
333​
0​
0​
1,000
30 Cu. In. Chain Drive​
741​
0​
892​
19,372​
11,731​
0​
0​
31,995
Motorcycle, Chain Drive, w/Sidecar​
340-B​
1,560​
105​
0​
0​
0​
0​
1,665
Motorcycle, Chain Drive, w/Sidecar​
344​
1,620​
1,620
Motor Tricycles​
WTC-18​
0​
16​
0​
0​
0​
0​
16
Total
2,067
3,035
20,041
12,064
1,620
0
The Indian Motorcycle Company won the Army-Navy "E' Award three times during World War Two.
The first award was won in September 1943.​
Indian Motorcycle World War Two Production Statistics: The table above shows that Indian built a minimum of 38,827 motorcycles during World War Two. While the table above shows no motorcycle production for 1945, one source indicates the plant was working 60 hours a week and had 400,000 square feet of manufacturing floor space when the war ended. Indian Motorcycle most likely had non-motorcycle related contracts for the plant to be working that many hours. The unused manufacturing capacity would not have been wasted. The numbers in the table above are in rough agreement with motorcycle output with other sources as noted below. Many of the Indian motorcycles went to the countries of the United Kingdom, especially the Model 741 that was designed specifically for the British Purchasing Commission.
Between 1940 and 1945, Indian delivered $24 million worth of motorcycles and spare parts for the war effort.
 
The Detroit Office of Ordnance of the U.S. Army was the primary purchasing entity for vehicles for the U.S. Army during WWII. It also purchased vehicles for the USMC, US Navy, and for Lend-Lease. However, there were other organizations that also purchased vehicles, including the Army Corps of Engineers, U.S. Army Air Force, U.S. Army Signal Corps, Navy Bureau of Ordnance, Navy Bureau of Aeronautics, and foreign countries making direct purchases.
Table 2 - Disposition of Indian Model 741 Motorcycles in World War Two
Country
Quantity
USSR​
5,100​
Great Britain​
7,600​
Australia​
4,158​
New Zealand​
3,616​
South Africa​
72​
India​
1,000​
Free Polish Forces supported by Great Britain​
683​
Iran​
25​
Total
22,254
It is unknown how many, if any, Indian-built motorcycles were used by the U.S. military. However, in the case of the Model 741, 31,995 were accepted by Army Ordnance, but only 22,254 can be accounted for as going to foreign governments. It could be that the U.S. military used the difference of 9,741.
The 5,100 741s were sent to the U.S.S.R. through Lend-Lease. Great Britain received 7,600 units either through Lend-Lease or direct purchase. The historical record is unclear on this. It is also unclear whether the Indian 741s that the Commonwealth countries received were obtained through Lend-Lease or direct purchase. In both cases, most likely. they were Lend-Lease.
Canada took possession of 150 Chiefs in 1940 that were destined for France when it fell. In 1940 Great Britain received 2,800 740Bs that were originally ordered by France.
In 1941-42 Great Britain took possession of 236 340Bs with sidecars. Most likely these were Lend-Lease from the 1,665 accepted by Army Ordnance in 1940-1941.
In 1944 Great Britain received 360 344Bs. These were probably Lend-Lease from the 1,620 built by Indian in 1944.
Table 3 - Indian Serial Numbers for World War Two Motorcycles
Model
Frame Serial Numbers
Engine Serial Numbers
USA Registration numbers
340-B
340-101 and up​
CDO-101 and up​
61734-61743, 61749-61975, 61999, 62002-62995, 63726-63729, 73938-64247, 64278-64287,69051-69055​
344
344-101 and up​
CDD-101 and up​
These were ordered for Lend-Lease with Registration numbers: 699680-69999, 610000-6101299​
640-B
640-101 and up​
FDO-101 and up​
640940-65430, 66648-69047, 69056-69277, 642363​
741
741-101 and up​
Unknown​
Unknown​
841
841-101 and up​
HDA101 and up​
Partial 615903-616092​
 
This in my friend John’s 741 military. John is 95. He was in the Air Force during WWll. John told me that the majority of Indian machines were allocated to non American allied forces during the war. Most of the Harley’s were allocated to American troops. He says that is one reason returning soldiers gravitated to Harley after the war was over. Simply - more American soldiers rode Harley than Indian during the war and they bought what they knew when they got home.
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Discussion starter · #69 ·
Would I have loved to have been there for this: 1946, auctioning off 1,000 brand-new surplus WLA’s, 741s and 841s. Nothing sold for over $1,000. There were rumors for years after the war that you could buy unassembled surplus motorcycles for $150. They were stored in cosmoline. As far as I know, this was just an urban myth. Nobody I know of got one.

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Discussion starter · #71 ·
In reviewing the inventory lists provided by @markgod (thank you!} I realized that I had overlooked the model 640. This was a militarized version of the civilian Super Scout, whereas the 741 was a dedicated military model from design through production. Only 2,500 mod. 640’s were built, and none were shipped overseas. They had the same spec’s as the 741.

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Discussion starter · #78 ·
And this photo seems to have solved the mystery posed in post #40. These are Australian troops and the rider in the foreground has the same helmet as the rider in post #40. Note that he is armed with a shotgun, not the Tommy gun used by US troops.

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