I've heard multiple times that the Scout is different. That it has the powerband that is like a sports bike. That the Scout is a cruiser that a Sportsbike guy would understand. However, since I never rode a sportbike, I didn't really know what these people were talking about. That until I got a GSX-R 750 a week ago. Now that I have a few hundred miles on the 750 under my belt, I went back to the Scout. I totally understand how this bike was supposed to be ridden now. Just thought I would tell my story.
I finally know how to ride the Scout.
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with enough money, no kids, and no women, you can have both!
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Haha I just got married, so my wallet is still trying to recover from that!
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My Bobber is from Pitt Cycles
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I don’t think anyone has a problem with it and I certainly don’t. I’ve probably dropped about the same amount into upgrades and a custom paint job on my scout. My point was just that there isn’t anything magical about it lol, it just takes a lot of coin and more than more people are willing to spend. It’s also a completely different conversation than talking about the PV3/intake upgrades as those upgrades are well documented and tested.
When you start pushing the limit of what a build is capable of there are also second and third order effects, some of which may not be immediately apparent. I have a diesel duramax that is well documented to be capable of achieving 1100+ hp levels but that comes with a significant loss in longevity and durability. Alternatively I chose to go with a 700 hp build that gives me plenty for the street without sacrifices in other areas and came with a much lower price tag.
Since Mark’s bike is the first I know of to have this level of work done, the raw numbers are just the first consideration, and only time will tell how the build holds up and if the “reward” is worth the risk In the long run.
When you start pushing the limit of what a build is capable of there are also second and third order effects, some of which may not be immediately apparent. I have a diesel duramax that is well documented to be capable of achieving 1100+ hp levels but that comes with a significant loss in longevity and durability. Alternatively I chose to go with a 700 hp build that gives me plenty for the street without sacrifices in other areas and came with a much lower price tag.
Since Mark’s bike is the first I know of to have this level of work done, the raw numbers are just the first consideration, and only time will tell how the build holds up and if the “reward” is worth the risk In the long run.
I tend to agree with dfresh, but 170 extra CCs and a hotter cam is hardly a HUGE build or undue stress on a modern engine. Its not like he is strapping a high boost turbo to it.
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Anyone see a turbo scout yet?
2022 Challenger, 2022 Chief Bobber Dark Horse, 2019 FTR-RR, 2021 Scout Bobber, 1977 Yamaha XS750
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I also have my concerns about the durability of the engine and transmission. It didn’t take long to destroy the stock clutch.
Mike at Pitt Cycles told me the most important thing after making engine modifications is having a good tune to keep a healthy air/fuel mixture flowing to the engine. He said most bikes are tuned very lean on the air/fuel mixture spectrum to help meet ever tightening emissions. Many bikes from the factory often stumble, surge, run hot, pop and backfire on deceleration etc. According to Mike this can be very hard on the engine and annoying to the rider. After market tunes give the engine what they need and generally correct running lean issues.
I admit I was a little late to the engine tuning party. But after having Lloyd’z tune my modified Chief and Scout and my stock FTR, I am now a believer.
Mike at Pitt Cycles told me the most important thing after making engine modifications is having a good tune to keep a healthy air/fuel mixture flowing to the engine. He said most bikes are tuned very lean on the air/fuel mixture spectrum to help meet ever tightening emissions. Many bikes from the factory often stumble, surge, run hot, pop and backfire on deceleration etc. According to Mike this can be very hard on the engine and annoying to the rider. After market tunes give the engine what they need and generally correct running lean issues.
I admit I was a little late to the engine tuning party. But after having Lloyd’z tune my modified Chief and Scout and my stock FTR, I am now a believer.
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Believe me, I’m rooting for you and hope it all works out. Agreed on tuning, especially if you can find a skilled tuner. The difference in my Scout was night and day after CraigB tuned it for me.
k, so I today put on my Big Boy pants, cause I'm a grown up dammit...
(well physically, maybe not mentally, depending on who you talk to).
😁
So, I put on Bassani slip-ons to make more noise, and they did.
But I just couldn't comprehend the whole "High-Reving V-Twin" thing, well until today.
I picked up a new set of Active Noise Cancellation ear buds, and actually pulled over right away as I was certain I had plugged the pipes somehow. I pulled one out and went HOLYCHIT.
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When I first got the Scout: 2000-2500
When I got more used to it, 2500-3000
When I realized it needed more, 3000-3500
so today, did exactly as written above, 2nd up to 4000, and then GETMESOME!
umm,
holychit...
ya, this little damn thing is a sport bike in disguise...
I don't like the vibration around the 4k, but then it clears up again...
wow, just wow...
😁
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Well I appreciate that. Unfortunately I don’t have newer pics as Ive been beholding it in the garage for months thanks to a major repair and then unexpected knee surgery. Hopefully I’ll be back in the saddle again by summer!
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Lol I keep saying good earplugs is the best value performance upgrade you can get!k, so I today put on my Big Boy pants, cause I'm a grown up dammit...
(well physically, maybe not mentally, depending on who you talk to).
[emoji16]
So, I put on Bassani slip-ons to make more noise, and they did.
But I just couldn't comprehend the whole "High-Reving V-Twin" thing, well until today.
I picked up a new set of Active Noise Cancellation ear buds, and actually pulled over right away as I was certain I had plugged the pipes somehow. I pulled one out and went HOLYCHIT.
So, I immediately realized I was running higher RPMs than before,Amazon.com: TOZO NC2 Hybrid Active Noise Cancelling Wireless Earbuds, in-Ear Detection Headphones, IPX6 Waterproof Bluetooth 5.2 Stereo Earphones, Immersive Sound Premium Deep Bass Headset, Black : Electronics
Buy TOZO NC2 Hybrid Active Noise Cancelling Wireless Earbuds, in-Ear Detection Headphones, IPX6 Waterproof Bluetooth 5.2 Stereo Earphones, Immersive Sound Premium Deep Bass Headset, Black: Earbud Headphones - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
When I first got the Scout: 2000-2500
When I got more used to it, 2500-3000
When I realized it needed more, 3000-3500
so today, did exactly as written above, 2nd up to 4000, and then GETMESOME!
umm,
holychit...
ya, this little damn thing is a sport bike in disguise...
I don't like the vibration around the 4k, but then it clears up again...
View attachment 686482
wow, just wow...
[emoji16]
2022 Challenger, 2022 Chief Bobber Dark Horse, 2019 FTR-RR, 2021 Scout Bobber, 1977 Yamaha XS750
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I think the vibration you experienced at 4,000 was the tension created between you brain and your balls trying to figure out how long you should hold throttle wide open!! (Don’t worry - You will get used to it.)k, so I today put on my Big Boy pants, cause I'm a grown up dammit...
(well physically, maybe not mentally, depending on who you talk to).
😁
So, I put on Bassani slip-ons to make more noise, and they did.
But I just couldn't comprehend the whole "High-Reving V-Twin" thing, well until today.
I picked up a new set of Active Noise Cancellation ear buds, and actually pulled over right away as I was certain I had plugged the pipes somehow. I pulled one out and went HOLYCHIT.
So, I immediately realized I was running higher RPMs than before,Amazon.com: TOZO NC2 Hybrid Active Noise Cancelling Wireless Earbuds, in-Ear Detection Headphones, IPX6 Waterproof Bluetooth 5.2 Stereo Earphones, Immersive Sound Premium Deep Bass Headset, Black : Electronics
Buy TOZO NC2 Hybrid Active Noise Cancelling Wireless Earbuds, in-Ear Detection Headphones, IPX6 Waterproof Bluetooth 5.2 Stereo Earphones, Immersive Sound Premium Deep Bass Headset, Black: Earbud Headphones - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
When I first got the Scout: 2000-2500
When I got more used to it, 2500-3000
When I realized it needed more, 3000-3500
so today, did exactly as written above, 2nd up to 4000, and then GETMESOME!
umm,
holychit...
ya, this little damn thing is a sport bike in disguise...
I don't like the vibration around the 4k, but then it clears up again...
View attachment 686482
wow, just wow...
😁
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Nice background and a beautiful bike!
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