Chiefs get the PowerPlus? my guess

 

LOL No. Frame is too small.


Also Indian stopped announcing "new" designs/models in the 4th quarter 4 years ago. November 4th will simply be the current lineup with new paint options, as they have done the last 4 years. Feb - March

 

I expect nothing special other than some new shitty paint color options - speaking of the available color options in europe/germany.

Already have three Indians in the garage and won't buy another one(a forth one). Maybe, if one or two sold, than, maybe but that would be a used like new 2024 Sport Chief die to the emission and sound regulations over here....

 

Yeah they do. They have to sign ndas when they go to the dealer show with the new bikes a while before they are released.

 

I'm just waiting for them to hit showroom and see larger discounts on 2025 models. Doesn't seem that will happen though as Indian is happy to only discount bikes $3k that are 2 years old sitting at dealers.

 

Not many 2-year-old bikes sitting at dealers, at least not mine.

 

FTR is back and now 1400cc and 450lbs!

Wait, that would make mine worth less than it already is, nevermind!

 

Be nice to see android auto.

 

That's not an Indian decision. It's Google that is holding it back. They are not letting Harley put it on new models either. Honda is the only one I know of that has managed a deal with Google.

 

Google is afraid of liability with it on motorcycles. I admit I don't like it and don't use it in my pickup but I would likely use it on bike using the adapter thing for car play.

 

The PP engines won't fit the chief frame. And seriously doubt Indian would completely redesign the Chief as it is the worst selling bike in the line. They haven't recouped the money from the new Chief design.

 

the Chief as it is the worst selling bike in the line.

That's because it doesn't have the PP engine!

 

I get that people are in love with the PP, I just hope Indian just doesn't become an American version of a Japanese motorcycle. Let's see that VVT Thunderstroke.

 

I would love to see an Indian in-line four with retro styling..

But it will never happen...

Cheerio,
Roy

 

Thunderstoke engine is going away. It already can’t be sold in Europe. They put all the money into re designing the scout engine. If I were a betting man, a larger version of that will be going in another platform

 

I could see the Scout engine going into something like the Chief, or the new " Super Scout"

 

That engine in a chief sized frame would be killer.

love the engine. But the frame of the scout is just too small imo

 

I theorize something will get dropped... chiefly, the Super Chief. The last 3 demo days I went to in NY & NJ didn't have any SCL available to ride. The omission was so obvious that I had several people mistake my personal SCL bike as a demo! At the 3rd demo day I went to just 2 weeks ago in White Plains I finally asked the demo manager what the deal was... he said that he was instructed not to even bother taking the Super Chiefs off the truck anymore, and that they are the least popular model. I was shocked & confused, but it seems that is foreshadowing... .

 

A semi-bobber bagger was a dumb design to begin with. So no one should be surprised.
Now if they had built the bike with full fenders (valanced or not) I think the bike would have had a better chance of success.
Personally I think the rear fender design of the Chief is pretty awful.

 

The issue with the Chief line is it size wise too close to the Scout, and price wise closer to the heavyweights.

People complained for years that the Scout was too small and more of a beginner's bike, and Indian needed a "mid-size" bike. Well, they did finally make one in 2021 the "New Chief", but they never took off.

With the redesign of the Scout, just may have killed the Chief line. The demographics for that bike as far as sales just isn't there.

 

The issue with the Chief line is it size wise too close to the Scout, and price wise closer to the heavyweights.

People complained for years that the Scout was too small and more of a beginner's bike, and Indian needed a "mid-size" bike. Well, they did finally make one in 2021 the "New Chief", but they never took off.

With the redesign of the Scout, just may have killed the Chief line. The demographics for that bike as far as sales just isn't there.

Ive had my Chief for 11 years and it's likely I'll never get rid of it.

 

Depends, if I were to only have one bike it would be a sport chief with hard bags. It was made to directly compete with the HD low rider.

 

You'd think they'd find a way to keep the air cooled motors. Hard to compete with HD when HD's bread and butter is a /114/117 in any chassis.

Scout is a good bike and clearly a top seller, but only because its a 'beginners bike'. Sport Chief with hard bags is the way to go.

 

I'm hoping for a PowerPlus 122 Roadmaster with valanced fenders and older style fairing... I doubt that I'll see it since they've reduced that styling option to the Springfield and only one version of the TS Roadmaster... The Springfield might go away... since they're offering the new Chief with the TS116...

 

I don’t see the Chief replacing the Springfield. Don’t get me wrong, the Chief is a good bike, but it’s not as capable for long weekend trips or touring. I had a 22 Chief Dark Horse with the 116 and traded it in for my Springfield Dark Horse. Two completely different bikes even though they have the same engine.

 

INDIAN FRONTIER Adventure Bike!!! jk

 

The problem with the Chief, or more so the design of, is that there are so many different models or variations but they all have the same “bobber” fenders. Even the non Bobber models. I went with a buddy to my local dealership for a demo-day test ride when the new Chief line was introduced. The only difference among them that I remember was with or without windshield and/or bags and spoked or non spoked wheels. And of course the DH option of having the engine blacked out. We both asked why they only brought the bobber versions for demos. Why didn’t they make at least one option of having full sized fenders? Not valanced, just regular fenders.

And they didn’t bring a single Springfield model for test ride. That was the main reason we went. I believe we could’ve gotten my buddy off his HD Heritage if they had.

 

It depends on the truck they have. The larger trucks carry the springfields, the smaller trucks only carry the new models.

 

It was a long enclosed trailer pulled with a pickup. It was pretty disappointing to be honest. And all the demo days they’ve had since then that I can think of have been through the week which makes it hard on those of us who still work.

 

All this talk of Demo days is making me so jealous!! We don't get demo days out east here. We can't even take a bike for a test ride without a signed purchase agreement!!

 

You’re from Canada? Oh, there’s so many more things you can’t do.

 

Interesting how dates changed. What was Indian few years ago? Harley was summer for years. Now winter

The vision was announced in summer

 

Interesting how dates changed. What was Indian few years ago? Harley was summer for years. Now winter

The vision was announced in summer

Next year models always announced in November. New models or changes announced late February

 

All this talk of Demo days is making me so jealous!! We don't get demo days out east here. We can't even take a bike for a test ride without a signed purchase agreement!!

That’s ridiculous… guess they aren’t too concerned with making a sale

You’re from Canada? Oh, there’s so many more things you can’t do.

No worries, we’re on par!

 

No worries, we’re on par!

Not really.

 

I'd love to see the PP under the Chief but i see it as something that will not happen this year.
They'll probably present new colors and that's it.

 

Like others said, the 2nd week of November on Tuesday is when 2026 models are released, but these will simply be existing models with different rim and color options for 2026. In February after the Dealer meeting, is when a new model or variant would be introduced. Funny how we go over this every year and it's the same answer.

 

So I shouldn't buy now? Oops.

I don't think I'll get better deal than I have when prices are likely to go up even more next year.