[3dCAD]

I sent these photos to Metzler asking what happened here
No answer or responce
Tires have 17,000 kms
Four big cracks
I would like to know what would cause this??

 

[K9F]

....I would like to know what would cause this??

Speculation here but where were they made? The inferior quality of Metzelers made in Brazil are quite well renowned and documented on the forums. If I lived on Your Side of the Pond I wouldn't touch Metzelers made south of the border. After the best part of 10,000 miles, I doubt if there's much recourse either. Just move on to another brand.

 

[Deplorable Rider]

Never ran the Metzeler tires before. My 18 RM came with the E3 and I got 18500 on the rear tire with a little left, but had to change for 6000 mile trip. I have been running Commander 2 after replacing and getting close to 20K for the rear and almost 30K for the front. I now have a 20RM with 39K and just put the 3rd rear tire on, Commander 2 . Best riding and milage tire that I have found.

 

[K9F]

There are some phenomenal mileage returns on tires here I can't even begin to imagine what sort of roads these mileages are being achieved on and what sort of riding style is being applied. If they are as I may surmise, I would seriously consider going 'darkside' and doubling my return as grip is certainly not a primary factor.

 

[Davetac1]

WOW!!! Now the tire shown looks to be a great tire.lol I'll just betcha it's a Metzler!! How many miles did you travel before discovering
this problem??? You're G**dam lucky you didn't go down!! I think I'll run right out and buy a set!! lol lol lol I'll just betcha running tires like that would make the wife real happy!!

 

[Bird Dog]

I am replacing the Metz on my Challenger tomorrow. Have just under 10K on them. From a handling perspective, they have been good. Not the best in the wet stuff, but not the worst. My biggest gripe, is that even with 39 PSI on the front, they were horribly cupped and made a horrific whining noise when going through corners - even louder than the music.

I am putting Avon Cobra Chromes on. Have them on my other bikes and really like them from a handling perspective and longevity (usually get between 12-14K on the set).

Are the Avons load rated for the front tire of the Challenger?. I've been hunting for a different brand of tire, but because of the odd rating number the Challenger has for the front wheel, I haven't been able to get an alternative brand put on my motorcycle.

 

[K9F]

Are the Avons load rated for the front tire of the Challenger?.......

If your Challenger is a Darkhorse 2020 through to 2022 they are apparently!

COBRA CHROME (avontyres.com)

 

[Lennyz1]

DCP, Direct Cycle Parts. Thx for the doubt. I bought 2 sets. Both sets where made within 4 months of purchase. Great rubber.
If your getting 20,000 out of a tire those bitches have to be hard as a rock & slick .lol

That was not doubt, That was curiosity. I searched all over and found the best price at about $100 more for a set. DCP Didn't stock the correct front tire for mine.

 

[Lennyz1]

Are the Avons load rated for the front tire of the Challenger?. I've been hunting for a different brand of tire, but because of the odd rating number the Challenger has for the front wheel, I haven't been able to get an alternative brand put on my motorcycle.

What is the load rating required for the Challanger. My RM DH requires a 66H which the only 19" tire I can find it a Cruisetec. All other tires out there in a 130/60-19 are a 61H. Almost a 50lb weight load difference.

 

[Bird Dog]

What is the load rating required for the Challanger. My RM DH requires a 66H which the only 19" tire I can find it a Cruisetec. All other tires out there in a 130/60-19 are a 61H. Almost a 50lb weight load difference.

I think that is it. I was at my Indian dealer last week and he was all over the Internet, he said because of the odd rating that Indian has for the front tire of the Challenger motorcycle, the Metzler Cruise Tech is the only tire being made right now that matches it.

 

[133227]

Have an appointment on the 20th for a new rear on the 21 Roadmaster. Down to the wear bars at 12,600

 

[Lennyz1]

This is 7100 miles. Probably could have squeaked a little more out of it, but it was time. Looks like it wore unevenly and found right side set over 1/8" forward of the left side index mark setting which was still factory set.

 

[Rusty Arse]

Whoa, did ya’ spend some time in a burn out pit @ Sturgis? lol. The index marks might get you close but it’s all about getting the belt running true.

 

[Lennyz1]

Whoa, did ya’ spend some time in a burn out pit @ Sturgis? lol. The index marks might get you close but it’s all about getting the belt running true.

Haha, nope. No burnouts. Mostly twisty winding roads in the mountains and very little highway. They wore pretty round, just wore out to quick in my book. You can actually see a line on the tires right at the inner end of the grooves where the limit is for leaning my RM. First thing that hits in the corners is the slip-ons and that is not cool when it does. Lucky I kept it upright.

 

[Davetac1]

Aren't these radial tires great?? I use to have that problem too,but no more!!! Of course,there are many that disagree with my resolve,but,everyone has their own opinion and life goes on!!

 

[Mickb]

Metzler ME888 Marathon Ultra White Walls 32,000 Ks on my Scout, great grip.

 

[Mustang01]

This is my front stock Metzler at 15k miles. Back is more worn than this. Put RideOn in the tires at 10k miles for an out of state run and it cured the cupping issue I was having. Replacing them this Friday with a new set of the same. Will definitely add RideOn again when I get the back home and expect even better mileage on the new set using RideOn from the start. I have always liked Metzlers because of the grip as 90% of my riding is on twisties, back roads and secondaries. I am very pleased to have gotten 15k out of them after solving the cupping issue so late.

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[thehueypilot]

This is my front stock Metzler at 15k miles. Back is more worn than this. Put RideOn in the tires at 10k miles for an out of state run and it cured the cupping issue I was having. Replacing them this Friday with a new set of the same. Will definitely add RideOn again when I get the back home and expect even better mileage on the new set using RideOn from the start. I have always liked Metzlers because of the grip as 90% of my riding is on twisties, back roads and secondaries. I am very pleased to have gotten 15k out of them after solving the cupping issue so late.

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What was your solution for the cupping issue?

Tim

 

[Davetac1]

The right side usually wears faster due to the crown in the roads which are made that way for water run off when it rains.Every motorcycle I've owned over the last 67 years has worn on that side just like yours did.

 

[Lennyz1]

This is my front stock Metzler at 15k miles. Back is more worn than this. Put RideOn in the tires at 10k miles for an out of state run and it cured the cupping issue I was having. Replacing them this Friday with a new set of the same. Will definitely add RideOn again when I get the back home and expect even better mileage on the new set using RideOn from the start. I have always liked Metzlers because of the grip as 90% of my riding is on twisties, back roads and secondaries. I am very pleased to have gotten 15k out of them after solving the cupping issue so late.

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Curious on what the tire changer says with the ride-on. I have changed tire that have had other sealants added and they are a messy disaster to work on. But if it solves the terrible cupping on the tires, I might be willing to do it.