I think this has been discussed before but here I am probably beating a dead horse! The Roadmaster/Cheiftain rake is 25 degrees, the Vintage is 31. The part numbers are different for the neck and the trees. The rake on the Roadmaster neck is 25, I can't find the neck rake for the Vintage so the triple trees on the Roadmaster are 25, but the neck on the vintage is a mystery. So my thought is if I can lose a couple of degrees of rake my vintage will turn a little better. I know there are much smarter people out there than me , so any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!