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The right numbers for scout brake pads.

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#1 ·
As some may know, but I fear most do not,,
the part numbers listed for Scout brake pads on just about every online vendor is wrong..
I found this out after purchase. Good thing it turns out the wrong pads for my Scout, are the right pads for my Bonneville, so that's lucky! Lol

The Vendors typically list the pads for the
Rear As variation on of something containing "347" which looks like this.
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this pad is wrong.

You are looking for a play on "377"
Which looks like this.
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These are proper.
These pads are also used by ATVs, dirt bikes And various examples off road equipment made from various manufacturers. I guess we know where Scout brakes were sourced from!

For the Front, it's funny because the shapes, are the same between the right ones, and the wrong ones.
Commonly, the number listed is FA196.
This pad looks like this.
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This pad is wrong .

The right number is FA672.
They look the same but there is a difference in size.
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The 672 is the lower.
This pad is also commonly used on many manufacturers ATV and side by sides vehicles as well.
So the silver lining to the odd tale, is we have many options of pads ranging from 10 dollars, all the way to 80 dollars.. but, if we know what ATV we are shopping for, we can have the right, top notch brand pads for our Scout for around $35 for front $25 the rear!!!:confused:;)

@Meggie
I was hoping we could sticky this one so maybe more numbers, cross references or shared models could be added by other members until vendors catch up with the folly.
Thanks in advance boss!
Ride long and prosper.
 
#49 ·
Ok, I got an answer from Galfer support:
Good morning,
It would appear that the brakes on your bike are pretty specific to your motorcycle and we don’t have a pad to fit. It does appear that EBC provides a brake pad for you bike. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.
Well, next step is Lyndall :)
 
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#51 ·
Just thought I’d leave this here now that brembo brakes are a direct bolt on option.

 
#52 ·
Dooooooood.. excellent find and post!
This is the very thing and only mod left I need for my Scout. I was about to start looked for a custom way to re-brake my Scout.
The Scout as stock gets by just fine with it factory brakes, but add some good power to it, the brakes become the weakest point!
Thanks for this!
 
#55 ·
As some may know, but I fear most do not,,
the part numbers listed for Scout brake pads on just about every online vendor is wrong..
I found this out after purchase. Good thing it turns out the wrong pads for my Scout, are the right pads for my Bonneville, so that's lucky! Lol

The Vendors typically list the pads for the
Rear As variation on of something containing "347" which looks like this.
View attachment 360674 this pad is wrong.

You are looking for a play on "377"
Which looks like this. View attachment 360676
These are proper.
These pads are also used by ATVs, dirt bikes And various examples off road equipment made from various manufacturers. I guess we know where Scout brakes were sourced from!

For the Front, it's funny because the shapes, are the same between the right ones, and the wrong ones.
Commonly, the number listed is FA196.
This pad looks like this. View attachment 360678
This pad is wrong .

The right number is FA672.
They look the same but there is a difference in size. View attachment 360680
The 672 is the lower.
This pad is also commonly used on many manufacturers ATV and side by sides vehicles as well.
So the silver lining to the odd tale, is we have many options of pads ranging from 10 dollars, all the way to 80 dollars.. but, if we know what ATV we are shopping for, we can have the right, top notch brand pads for our Scout for around $35 for front $25 the rear!!!:confused:;)

@Meggie
I was hoping we could sticky this one so maybe more numbers, cross references or shared models could be added by other members until vendors catch up with the folly.
Thanks in advance boss!
Ride long and prosper.
I just got these from G and P cycle front and back for my 2015 scale
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#56 ·
I just installed EBC’s EPFA209 pads on the front of my 19 Bobber. I had used a similar pad on my single rotor Ducati monster and had a great experience. Working on fork spring changes and putting on commander III cruisers now, but will report back shortly if anyone is interested.

EBC Brakes EPFA Extreme Pro Sintered Brake Pads Compatible for Aprilia ETV 1000 Caponord 2005 Amazon.com: EBC Brakes EPFA Extreme Pro Sintered Brake Pads Compatible for Aprilia ETV 1000 Caponord 2005: Automotive

Mike
 
#57 ·
I just installed EBC’s EPFA209 pads on the front of my 19 Bobber. I had used a similar pad on my single rotor Ducati monster and had a great experience. Working on fork spring changes and putting on commander III cruisers now, but will report back shortly if anyone is interested.

EBC Brakes EPFA Extreme Pro Sintered Brake Pads Compatible for Aprilia ETV 1000 Caponord 2005 Amazon.com: EBC Brakes EPFA Extreme Pro Sintered Brake Pads Compatible for Aprilia ETV 1000 Caponord 2005: Automotive
I too just installed Commander lll tires on my Scout. When I was putting on the frt wheel I noticed the brakes were almost non-existant at 8300 mi. I used the EBC HH pads.I rode a couple hundred miles today and every thing felt about the same. Thats not a bad thing,I liked the way it rode. I wasnt to happy to see "Thailand" on the side of my tires.

Mike
 
#58 ·
Installed the EBC EPFA209s on front only after scuffing up the disk well with a scotchbrite pad on a DA sander. Initial bite on the pads is less than I’ve had with other EBCs, but they stop well and are very progressive with one or two finger stops by the end of break in. Keep getting better through break in so by time the new tires (Commander 3 Cruisers) are scuffed up, it should be a good combination. They do make the rear feel pretty anemic, so might have to do something back there eventually. Thumbs up in the EBC EPFA pads so far.
Mike
 
#59 · (Edited)
So .. last week I heard that grinding sound from the rear of my 2015 non ABS Scout . A definite oversight on my part and poor preventative maintenance especially with 25 k on the clock . I called 3 dealers looking for pads and all I got was none in stock and supply chains woes ,don't know when we will get them in . So I followed this thread and could not find EBC's for the rear . I took the Indian part numbers for the front " 2205849" and rear pads "2205854" and hit Amazon what I came up with was these Niche pads and since I've never heard of them I started searching . It seems some of the guys on the Honda GL1800 site have been using them for a few years now with pretty good results . So at 23 bucks for the fronts and 23 for the rears I figured I'd give them a shot "some brakes are better than none " . Must say quite surprised and even though I have only put on 150 miles this weekend I'm happy with my 46 buck purchase , just as good if not better than stock . Another option for us .
 

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#60 ·
Installed Galfer FD205G1651 today. That's the second time I used it on front brakes (first time my dealer installed them). Cheap and don't last long, but works good and that's enough.
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#61 ·

Exact fit . Only difference is their black backing instead of copper color
 
#65 ·
folks, I have read all the posts but I still have some confusion. I have a 2016 Scout Sixty (all stock). I'm planning to replace the brake pads with EBC branded ones.

From what I understand, I can use these for the front brakes - FA672HH
for the rear pads, is it FA347 or FA377?

Please confirm. Appreciate your response!

Happy New Year!
 
#66 ·
folks, I have read all the posts but I still have some confusion. I have a 2016 Scout Sixty (all stock). I'm planning to replace the brake pads with EBC branded ones.

From what I understand, I can use these for the front brakes - FA672HH
for the rear pads, is it FA347 or FA377?

Please confirm. Appreciate your response!

Happy New Year!
Looks like the correct part number for the rear is FA377X.

Here's the catalog for future reference: https://ebcbrakes.com/wp-content/uploads/catalogues/EBC_HARLEY_CAT_WEB.pdf
 
#68 ·
As some may know, but I fear most do not,,
the part numbers listed for Scout brake pads on just about every online vendor is wrong..
I found this out after purchase. Good thing it turns out the wrong pads for my Scout, are the right pads for my Bonneville, so that's lucky! Lol

The Vendors typically list the pads for the
Rear As variation on of something containing "347" which looks like this.
View attachment 360674 this pad is wrong.

You are looking for a play on "377"
Which looks like this. View attachment 360676
These are proper.
These pads are also used by ATVs, dirt bikes And various examples off road equipment made from various manufacturers. I guess we know where Scout brakes were sourced from!

For the Front, it's funny because the shapes, are the same between the right ones, and the wrong ones.
Commonly, the number listed is FA196.
This pad looks like this. View attachment 360678
This pad is wrong .

The right number is FA672.
They look the same but there is a difference in size. View attachment 360680
The 672 is the lower.
This pad is also commonly used on many manufacturers ATV and side by sides vehicles as well.
So the silver lining to the odd tale, is we have many options of pads ranging from 10 dollars, all the way to 80 dollars.. but, if we know what ATV we are shopping for, we can have the right, top notch brand pads for our Scout for around $35 for front $25 the rear!!!:confused:;)

@Meggie
I was hoping we could sticky this one so maybe more numbers, cross references or shared models could be added by other members until vendors catch up with the folly.
Thanks in advance boss!
Ride long and prosper.
New here, what year Scout? Sorry if I did not see where you mentioned it.
 
#69 · (Edited)
I have a 2017 Scout Sixty (non ABS). As far as I can tell via the ECB part finder and the listings on Amazon & Ebay, the correct pads for the rear are FA 213HH. Can anyone confirm that?

Also, has anyone done or seen a walk through of rear pad replacement? On a non ABS.
 
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#70 ·
I have the exact same bike! Can't recollect for sure but you may need to drop the exhaust pipes to reach it...?

Anyway, the reason I'm responding is to warn you about letting the master cylinder suck air. If air gets into the brake line and/or caliper, it's a REAL ***** to bleed. Search other threads I've posted on about it... keyword "TID" (tie it down) method. But best to keep the master full and not let any air into the system.
 
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#74 ·
I recently took my bike in to have work done on it, and I was told the front brake pads should be replaced because they're at 3mm while the rear is at 6mm, which I thought odd as I don't use the front brakes much; not a big zip through the twisties guy. I simply slow down if it looks hairy. Is it possible the front pads were installed too tightly? I'm still under 6000km btw, and in no way, shape or form mechanically inclined. I've looked through this thread but I'm getting confused by some stuff. Would I be right in assuming the majority use third party brake pads for the scout? The tech at the horrid dealership I went to wrote down the number for the front pads, but when I went to the Indian site the page says at top these fit your bike and at the bottom it says they don't.

Can someone make it an easy purchase for this dolt? I'm going to have the Polaris dealer install them. Closer and not as full of shit as my closest Indian dealer.
 
#75 ·
What kind of writing do you do? If you're doing a lot of stop and go you're working on those front brakes. Your front brakes should always wear out sooner than your back because that's where most your breaking is.
I put ECB semi sintered on the front of my 2017. FA209 if memory serves. I'll have to check and confirm
 
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#85 ·
Har! Thanks very much, Charlie, but no way will I be doing any of this myself. I'm about as mechanically inclined as a chimp with a typewriter. I meant more like what kind of time to look out for when I have the job done. I really need to be more specific. I'm sure this will help someone out though.

PS. My damn spine is so freaking shite these days I barely got one rim cleaned the other day. Hopefully I can get the other done today if it doesn't rain.
 
#86 ·
Hey, no problem! Hope your back feels better brother. I would change hem each spring, depends on your mileage. If your ride over 10k a year, change them every spring.
Charlie
 
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#87 ·
The days of my back feeling better are long gone, brother, but thanks for the good thoughts. And like I said up top I'm only at 6000km (3728mi) at the two year mark, and I doubt I'll do more than 10,000km all told by the end of 2023. Do let me know when you sort out what pads you're using on the Scout though. I'd appreciate it, Charlie. Cheers.
 
#94 ·
I have a 2021 Scout Bobber Twenty.
The front Brake Pads (Polaris Part #2206139) - EBC FA209/2HH looks to be the correct pads but I may be wrong.

But for my rear pads (Polaris Part #2206146), Looks almost Identical to the fronts, just smaller.
looks nothing like EBC FA213HH as on EBC Website or EBC FA377 as mentioned in the original post.

Looking on the bike I can confirm they look like on Indian parts website.
Any idea what EBC part number would work in the rear?

(Indian/Polaris Seemed to update the brakes on the 2017 and up models)


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#95 ·
FA209HH is the correct front pad. The rear pads are correct for the 2017-2018 listed here. I got two pair for $38 on eBay for the front pads. FA209HH.
Charlie
 
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#96 ·
What is the rear brake pad again? All I could find was your post from eBay with the x-lai 208, and all I could find were organic compound brake pads.
Any recommendation for a high-performing/lasting brake pad, I tend to use my rear brake a lot, I.E. I usually hit the rear first when breaking and feather in the fronts as needed to come to a stop lol
 
#97 ·
I will check for you, but really, you should always, except in ice, or gravel, use primarily your front brake. It has 70% of your braking power, the rear has only 30%. My rear pads are like 10% worn, as I went to replace them this year, and they were still like new. So, I have an extra set of rear pads.
The number on eBay for EBC pads would be FA213 HH for sintered. I found organic pads work well, and don’t ruin your rotors, they are EBC FA213M.
Charlie
 
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#99 ·
These are the pads I got for my 2022 Scout Rogue ABS and they fit perfect:

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#102 ·
Myself, I try not to use the most aggressive types of pads, and if possible, I find organic pads work well and don’t chew up rotors… pads are much cheaper than rotors, and I change the pads every spring.
Charlie
 
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