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The right numbers for scout brake pads.

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#1 ·
As some may know, but I fear most do not,,
the part numbers listed for Scout brake pads on just about every online vendor is wrong..
I found this out after purchase. Good thing it turns out the wrong pads for my Scout, are the right pads for my Bonneville, so that's lucky! Lol

The Vendors typically list the pads for the
Rear As variation on of something containing "347" which looks like this.
Image
this pad is wrong.

You are looking for a play on "377"
Which looks like this.
Image

These are proper.
These pads are also used by ATVs, dirt bikes And various examples off road equipment made from various manufacturers. I guess we know where Scout brakes were sourced from!

For the Front, it's funny because the shapes, are the same between the right ones, and the wrong ones.
Commonly, the number listed is FA196.
This pad looks like this.
Image

This pad is wrong .

The right number is FA672.
They look the same but there is a difference in size.
Image

The 672 is the lower.
This pad is also commonly used on many manufacturers ATV and side by sides vehicles as well.
So the silver lining to the odd tale, is we have many options of pads ranging from 10 dollars, all the way to 80 dollars.. but, if we know what ATV we are shopping for, we can have the right, top notch brand pads for our Scout for around $35 for front $25 the rear!!!:confused:;)

@Meggie
I was hoping we could sticky this one so maybe more numbers, cross references or shared models could be added by other members until vendors catch up with the folly.
Thanks in advance boss!
Ride long and prosper.
 
#2 ·
As some may know, but I fear most do not,,
the part numbers listed for Scout brake pads on just about every online vendor is wrong..
I found this out after purchase. Good thing it turns out the wrong pads for my Scout, are the right pads for my Bonneville, so that's lucky! Lol

The Vendors typically list the pads for the
Rear As variation on of something containing "347" which looks like this.
View attachment 360674 this pad is wrong.

You are looking for a play on "377"
Which looks like this. View attachment 360676
These are proper.
These pads are also used by ATVs, dirt bikes And various examples off road equipment made from various manufacturers. I guess we know where Scout brakes were sourced from!

For the Front, it's funny because the shapes, are the same between the right ones, and the wrong ones.
Commonly, the number listed is FA196.
This pad looks like this. View attachment 360678
This pad is wrong .

The right number is FA672.
They look the same but there is a difference in size. View attachment 360680
The 672 is the lower.
This pad is also commonly used on many manufacturers ATV and side by sides vehicles as well.
So the silver lining to the odd tale, is we have many options of pads ranging from 10 dollars, all the way to 80 dollars.. but, if we know what ATV we are shopping for, we can have the right, top notch brand pads for our Scout for around $35 for front $25 the rear!!!:confused:;)

@Meggie
I was hoping we could sticky this one so maybe more numbers, cross references or shared models could be added by other members until vendors catch up with the folly.
Thanks in advance boss!
Ride long and prosper.
Done
 
#4 ·
Since I'd never, ever, ever pay 80 bucks for a pair of pads, I'm using EBC HH.
They work the same a stock at this point in observation.. the stocks are a copper sintered and based plate pad.. so are the EBC.
The back however, much quieter.
I'm using the FA377-R pad.. seems to have a different compound.

Now as something to note.
I use mostly my front brake. That said, at 7k my back pads were really thin. Much thinner than I'd have guessed, especially since I know I'm not hard on the rear, and likely use it less than most.. I was surprised to see how little pad I had left back there. This likely played into a noisy rear.
Just something to know, and check on.
Cheers!
 
#6 ·
EBC Brake Pads FA377
FA377 A. 94 x 46 x 8.5mm B. 73 x 46 x 11mm

ADLY
Crossroad 220 Sentinal Quad F
Canyon 280 Quad 08-09 F
Hurricane 280 Quad 08-09 F
Canyon 300 Quad 08-09 F
Crossroad 300 Sentinal Quad 08-09 F
Utility 300 05-07 F
Hurricane 300 Quad 08-09 F
300 RS Quad 07-08 F
300 XS Quad 07-08 F
320 S Quad 08 F
Hurricane 320 Quad 08-09 F
500 S 08 F
ARCTIC CAT
DVX 250 06 F
BOMBARDIER
DS 250 06 F&R
CAN-AM
DS 250 (3J7A/B) 07 F&R
CECTEK
500 EFI Gladiator 09-10 F
CPI
XS 250 Quad 06-09 F
KYMCO
KXR 250 Mongoose Quad 04-07 F
MXU 250 04-09 F
Urban Quad 250 06 F
MXU 300 06-10 F&R
Maxxer 300 06-10 F
MXU 500 (L70000/Carb Model) 05-09 F&R
MXU 500 i (EFi Model) 10 R
MXU 500 (Carb Model) 10 R
UXV 500 4x4 (Side x Side) (U10000) 08-10 F&R
PGO
BR-500i Racer 07-09 R
500 Bug 08-09 R

SYM
Trackrunner 200 Quad 05-07 F
Quadlander 250 05-07 F
Outlander 300 S 07-08 F&R
Citymax 300 Quad 06 F
Quadlander 300 08-10 F&R
Quadraider 600 06-07 R
Quadraider 600 08-10 F&R
Quadraider 600 LE (Quad) 10 F&R
TGB
Blade 325 LE (4x2) 09-10 F
Avenger 400 Quad (4x2) 07-08 F&R
Avenger 400 LE (4x2) 09-10 F
Blade 425 Quad (4x4) 07-08 F&R
Blade 425 SE (4x4) 09-10 F
500 Avenger R (4x2) 09-10 F
Blade 525 SE 09-10 F
Blade 525 SL 09-10 F
525 SE 4x4 09 F&R
550 SL 4x4 09-10 F
550 SE 4x4 09-10 F
YAMAHA
YZF-R 125 08-10 R

Equivalents OE #

45105 LB17 3050
45105 LBA7 3050
45105 LEE 8305
45113 REA 300A
4511A RAI 000
45120 256 000
00157056
S4511ARCA000
S4311ARCA000
515049
515050
5D7 F5911 00
B840F64-6500000

Competitor X Ref

Dunlopad
DP967
Ferodo
FDB2184
SBS
810
Vesrah
VD9026

MATERIAL AVAILABILITY AND PART NO.
STD OPTIONS
FA TT HH R MXS EPFA
FA377 FA377TT FA377R

EBC Organic Brake Pads FA series Kevlar organic pads provide fingertip stopping power and are the preferred choice for many sportbike riders; having low disc attack characteristics and medium lifetime.

“TT” Series Moto-X Sport and Enduro Pads Cool running carbon based brake pad compound for sport use in moto-x and ATV applications. For mud; sand or wet conditions requiring longer life; use our sintered range opposite.

“R” Series Sintered ATV and Moto-X Replacement Pads US made sintered copper alloy pads for sport and utility riding alike in normal off road riding.

R Suffix = High Durability Sintered Pad
 
#7 ·
I was also going to post the X reference info for the Front 672 pad, but found it fit 704 other bikes and wanted to be considerate of the forums server space....lol.
So pick a bike, and you are probably right.....
 
#9 ·
That is a loaded question..
It all depends on how you ride, and the roads you ride..
I I've had great luck with ebc and sbs.
For how I ride, I prefer a sintered pad aka HH
But, they have downs too, namely noisy. when wet, and cold they don't bite the same.
A less aggressive rider, may prefer organic pads, for its low heat up time, instant full potential even when cold or wet and may not get them to hot to fade so wouldn't be a problem..
Go snoop around, it's an interesting, and plentiful subject!
Lots of good info on the web on how to pick an ideal compound!

Hey, good to know!

Have you tried different pads than stock ones? I'd really love to have a little bit more power on the brake...
I'm using EBC HH currently.. feels a bit better than stock, however, the difference could be simply fresh pads.. the factory pads have a similar make up as the EBC HH.
 
#10 ·
I noticed a marked improvement with the EBC HH over stock. Definitely grippier, with better feel at the lever. They don't feel so firm/wooden. They make a bit more noise when braking but it's by no means a problem- just a slight hiss. I have not been able to get them to fade, even with aggressive corner-to-corner riding.
 
#18 ·
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caliper mounting studs-31 ft-lbs (42 Nm)

from my 2015-16 manual
Thanks for the info. Since my original post I replaced my front pads and found the job to be surprisingly simple. No significant disassembly was necessary. There is a plug near the front of the caliper that looks like the head of an Allen bolt. It comes out with a 5mm Allen wrench. Behind the plug in the same hole is another Allen head bolt/pin. This is the pin that goes through the only hole in both pads. When the pin (also 5mm) is removed both pads will just fall out of the caliper. Then the new pads can be inserted. If the outer pad is replaced first the pin can then be inserted just far enough to go through the hole in that outer pad. Then once the inner pad is in place the pin can be pushed through the hole in it, too. Next, screw the pin in all the way, using just a little force, followed by the plug, which seems to be there just to keep the pin from loosening over time. When inserting the pads the rectangular projection at the end opposite the hole will have to be jiggled into the recess in the caliper in order for the hole to line up with the pin.

So, as you can tell from this description of the job, the caliper doesn't have to be removed or disassembled. The whole job was done in ten minutes! My Scout (ABS) has only 1900 miles on it, so there had not as yet been enough brake pad wear to require pushing back the pistons to make room for the thickness of the new pads.
 
#20 ·
I got them from Revzilla. Here's there ordering info. I used the same pads, though for a different bike, and got a significant improvement in braking performance. I just did the job this morning, so I haven't had a chance to test them out yet, but I expect similar results.

PRICE (EACH)
TOTAL
Item# 1254644
EBC FA672HH Double-H Sintered Front Brake Pads

$46.00
 
#22 ·
I got them from Revzilla. Here's there ordering info. I used the same pads, though for a different bike, and got a significant improvement in braking performance. I just did the job this morning, so I haven't had a chance to test them out yet, but I expect similar results.

PRICE (EACH)
TOTAL
Item# 1254644
EBC FA672HH Double-H Sintered Front Brake Pads

$46.00
I put a set of Galfer pads on the rear and it was a great improvment , I have the Roland Sands Med pegs and you loose some of the leverage because of the shorter lever , the Galfer pads helped a lot !! $31.25.
 
#24 ·
Part # FA347 and #FA196 are for the Chief models!
 
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#26 ·
Parts cross reference thread, excellent idea! I wonder why no one thought of it before! I'll bet it would be even better if it was about more than just Scout brake pads too. Good thing it's a sticky so everyone looking for info on Scout brake pads can find it easily.
 
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#28 ·
binsjohn, Just curious why you replaced the front brake pads after just 1900 miles? I have a 2018 Scout (ABS) and my front brakes are extremely noisy. I've been to the dealer twice (for my 500 mile service and for the air in the brake fluid recall) and both times I complained about the front brake noise and both times they told me there was nothing wrong with them. Just wondering if you had the same problem?
What kind of noise?
 
#29 ·
The noise comes and goes, but mostly it is a high pitched grinding sound, you know how pads sound when they are completely worn out...almost a metal on the rotor sound...that kind of sound that is almost like fingernails on a chalk board. The rotors are true and smooth as glass. The last time I had the dealer check it out the tech said that the pads had a little bit of glazing on them, but he said everything was fine. The noise is not the ABS engaging. I know what that sounds like, this is completely different. Frustrating.
 
#30 ·
OK. I was trying to feel out if it was a howl, or rattle. Something like that.
Here is the good news,, and the bad.
That's normal. This is what often happens with sintered pads, on single rotor bikes.
Often bikes are fitted with these pads in efforts to over come the lack of a second rotor.
The use of the higher performance pad is the result of the higher clamping Force required and thus heat generated from a single rotor system under normal riding and during high demand use when compared to a dual rotor.
If one was adventurous, you could cross reference the pad numbers and see if their are any organic style pads available if it's that much of a bother. they would be quieter but there would likely be a trade-off somewhere. Would be neat to know!
 
#36 ·
I'm having a hard time trying to find EBC rear replacement pads. If I try googling it by by bike, the wrong ones come up, and if I try by EBC part number (FA377...), no one has them?

Anyone had any luck with the twin powers from JP Cycle or drags from Revzilla, or the Volars from D2moto?
 
#100 ·
I just made a post on this thread which EBC I bought for my Scout Rogue.
 
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#37 ·
I'm having a hard time trying to find EBC rear replacement pads. If I try googling it by by bike, the wrong ones come up, and if I try by EBC part number (FA377...), no one has them?

Anyone had any luck with the twin powers from JP Cycle or drags from Revzilla, or the Volars from D2moto?
Interesting..

I've had decent results with volar...
 
#38 ·
I'm having a hard time trying to find EBC rear replacement pads. If I try googling it by by bike, the wrong ones come up, and if I try by EBC part number (FA377...), no one has them?

Anyone had any luck with the twin powers from JP Cycle or drags from Revzilla, or the Volars from D2moto?
I broke down and bought the freakin Indian pads...the only aftermarket pads I could find in a brick and mortar store were sintered and from what I understand, OEM are semi metallic. I guess sintered pads will wear down a rotor quicker. Cheaper to pay the extra for the Indian pads than replace the rotor. Can anyone confirm the semi metallic OEM spec?

Also, does Indian expect you to remove the mufflers to verify the torque on the caliper mounting bolts, because there is no way you can get a torque wrench behind them.
 
#45 ·
Hey, your post really helped me and wanted to log in to say thanks.

Also, the brake pads on the 2018 scout are an easy install for sure, remove 1 pin, push the pad against the caliper to seat it back to stock, put in the 2 new pads, minding the seating bracket thingy that holds the pad, put pin back and torque.
 
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