thank you for the inputI currently have both installed. I started with Rox Risers on the stock handlebars. They move the stock bars closer, and slightly higher. I came across a smoking deal on some KST Apache bars, so I jumped on them. However, the KST bars sit a little too far away from me, causing me to have to lean forward, which I don't like. So, I reinstalled the Rox Risers with the KST bars. Thus far, just sitting on the bike feels comfortable. I haven't been able to do more than go around the block due to weather here.