Found this forum a couple of weeks ago, great site. New bike is in the cards, been riding Harley's for the past 30 years, really like what I've been reading on the Chieftain, can't wait to ride one when the weather breaks, stopped in Madison Wi at the dealer and looked around this past weekend, what I don't like is Indians pricing on their accessories, man I thought Harley was proud of their stuff, but Indian is just unbelievable !! Deal breaker?, not sure, but 2500-3000 to add a tour pak? , yeah, I know, look at the Roadmaster, maybe. Mentioned that to the sales lady, she didn't say much. , so Indian if your listening, let's get the accessories down to earth, you may lose some sales because of it. flhman