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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Only 423 miles on my chief and as I am toggling through the dash to check ambient temp and CHK ENG shows up. I pull over and try to get the code but it won't come up. Turn bike off and trailer it home 87 miles, I checked it once home no codes and CHK ENG is gone, dealer closed today but they are 178 miles from my home so I will trailer it in to the dealer on Thursday and also have the 500 mile done. Also the ABS does not work, I had a car cut me off and I grabbed a handful of brakes and was on wet pavement and both front and rear brakes locked as bike slid. I had to modulate the brakes myself. Just wish dealer was open today I am so disappointed. Seems all that extra wait time and extra precautions on bikes were BS INDIAN is no better with Polaris than in past. Anyone want to
Purchase #705 red chief vintage?
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
OUCH!

I would have expected an idiot light would appear somewhere on your dash when the ABS didn't pass it's 'self check'?
I had intermittent ABS failures on my Vision for over 2 years and just recently figured out it was the rear pick up sensor.

Good luck and remember that you will have problems buying any vehicles first model year.

I purchased a Ford Focus in 2000, it's first model year.
There have been 18 recalls.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2000/ford/focus/recalls/
I still have that car.

It was my Wife's car, then my Son's car, then my Daughter's car, and now it's my 'take the dog to the dogpark' car.


 
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I would not go that low on price but am
Open to reasonable offer I have a lot of extras so was thinking around 25 for it. It is a numbered bike and you would save in sales tax ect.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Please keep us updated on the problems you have encountered. It will be important for all of us to communicate problems being a new bike and new design. There will be growing pains. The more and earlier we know the better off all of us will be.

Chicago, I know you are upset right now, but all this is part of something new. The check engine is probably nothing. The ABS is very troubling and dangerous. Again, please let us know what happens. Drink a cold beverage and remember you are part of a rebirth of the original AMERICAN motorcycle!
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
18995 said:
Only 423 miles on my chief and as I am toggling through the dash to check ambient temp and CHK ENG shows up. I pull over and try to get the code but it won't come up. Turn bike off and trailer it home 87 miles, I checked it once home no codes and CHK ENG is gone, dealer closed today but they are 178 miles from my home so I will trailer it in to the dealer on Thursday and also have the 500 mile done. Also the ABS does not work, I had a car cut me off and I grabbed a handful of brakes and was on wet pavement and both front and rear brakes locked as bike slid. I had to modulate the brakes myself. Just wish dealer was open today I am so disappointed. Seems all that extra wait time and extra precautions on bikes were BS INDIAN is no better with Polaris than in past. Anyone want to Purchase #705 red chief vintage?
I for one would not trailer a bike 178 miles because the check engine light is on. I would make a nice ride out of it to the dealer, and if it breaks down on the way, call them to pick it up.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
With all due respect, I personnaly find it disturbing that someone would want to get rid of his bike after barely a few miles and what seems to be a minor issue. Come on, give it a chance alright. Puking on Polaris for such a trivial thing is way past reason. A check yellow check engine or s check engine with no apparent issue whatsoever is not a cause for towing a bike.
Keep faith Mr ChgoVision
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
My partner just bought a new Chief Vintage for us to play around with. We own an independent motorcycle shop together so I get to play with the bike as much as I like. Knowing that a new product such as a car or new motorcycle is likely to have a growing pain, as pre-production models will receive much more attention from those building them as well as the engineers who designed them than the production models, I am curious about what I might expect from ours. When Harley first tested the Twincam engines, they worked well, as we all know the production models were not quite what they intended. I expect there will be issues with the Indian as well, let us just hope and prey that they pay more attention to them than Harley did and actually offer a reliable solution, in a timely manner. We have a 5 year warranty so if it blows up, chunks a rod, craters a piston, we get a new one.
Ok now a little about me and my shop. I've been a motorcycle nut for most of my life and have been a professional motorcycle mechanic for 13 years now. I play with every brand and model but I prefer to stick my old Harleys. My shop is more of a biker jiffy lube and tire changer than much else, but I do dig into them when I need to. I send my customers (or when needed, take them) to the dealer or other specialists when they need them. I have a very good relationship with most of the major dealerships in our area. ( we do not compete with each other, we help each other)
I'm curious why you trailered your bike home rather than ride it. Did it not start again after you saw the code? Was there any other indication of an issue?
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I understood it perfectly well. If the Check engine light really meant something it can leave the code for where it came on at that odometer point. If he drives it and fries it will they warrant the vaporized motor? It could very easily be called abuse. That is one concern, the other is the ABS doesn't work, will that degrade and lock him up totally leaving him in a ditch?

How many Indian experts do we have on Indian displays and Indian ABS relays? He did the right thing for him.

So my question would be, is the owner of a new bike supposed to know those answers on a Sunday? I thought Indian had 7 day a week customer care?
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
The bike did restart and seemed to be ok. But I chose to trailer because I did not want to hurt anything and have a larger issue. As far as selling the bike. I am well aware this is a new motorcycle and accept that what I can not accept is 1 the abs not working and 2 the fact that there is an issue when delivery of bike was delayed due to quality control. Now I have owned other bikes in past and some 1st year BMW K1600 GTL, Triumph Trophy SE and the list continues and have never had an issue maybe I was lucky in past and that luck has run out?
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
18995 said:
I would not go that low on price but am Open to reasonable offer I have a lot of extras so was thinking around 25 for it. It is a numbered bike and you would save in sales tax ect.
$25K Seems steep for a used Polaris - this is used CVO territory. What are the extras?

thanks!
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
18995 said:
The bike did restart and seemed to be ok. But I chose to trailer because I did not want to hurt anything and have a larger issue. As far as selling the bike. I am well aware this is a new motorcycle and accept that what I can not accept is 1 the abs not working and 2 the fact that there is an issue when delivery of bike was delayed due to quality control. Now I have owned other bikes in past and some 1st year BMW K1600 GTL, Triumph Trophy SE and the list continues and have never had an issue maybe I was lucky in past and that luck has run out?
Being upset that you had issues is completely understandable, but dumping a bike due to an engine light and an ABS glitch.....which both could be 2 minute fixes seems a little......strange.
You shouldn't have bought the bike. Impulse seems to be in your nature.
While I have sympathy for your problems, I don't really have any sympathy for your anger.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Permit me to add my two-cent's worth. Bottom line: this is what WARRANTIES are for. It would also be a good chance for some feedback to Polaris to rectify a possible production problem, or design issue. Your bike could also be just ONE to experience these issues. I say give your bike a chance, more than what you've given so far. Also, if you haven't already, notify Indian of your issues and not demean the brand on some forum (yes, you're demeaning the brand). Good luck.
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Honestly hope you decide to keep the Vintage , try to let Indian /Polaris solve your issue. Keep us up to date as in the back of my mind I was thinking why would it be any different than the Vic's if its the same folks building it.. I would never buy a first year new model run.
But I hope you work through this.
 
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Forums are exactly where you talk about problems. Bringing problems to light where others can learn from them is valuable. Maybe he is the first of a few thousand to have similar problems. The check engine lights were discussed on this forum when the Sturgis rides were being done. The demeaning thing is Indian let one out the door being aware of the issue on August 3rd. It is kinda shocking quality control didn't fix this. Indian was well aware of it at Sturgis.

Lets not talk about Polaris. I called Frigidare when the freezer broke not GM>

25k! Did you really just come here to see if you could upsell the bike? I would hate to defend a speculator. + How much is this bike worth if Indian cannot identify and certify the ABS issue you described? I also would give it a chance.

I can understand concerns but not the price. The two don't seem to mesh for me.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
18995 said:
Hmm well let it be your bike?
I need to buy your bike to have a differing opinion? 2 problems on a bike that didn't even exist 6 months ago? Part of your original b!tch was that they delayed the delivery (BTW, due to CORRECTING QC ISSUES), and now you want to sing the blues and sell your bike at some inflated premium?
While I applaud you posting about the issues so others can be aware of them, the rest of the message is completely lost on me.
I'm not buying what you are selling.....either the bike or your tears.
 
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I FEEL YOUR PAIN, BUT.................That is why they put warranties on new bikes and cars. While I really don't mean to sound cold and insentitive, if you are buying #705 you GOTTA UNDERSTAND there are going to be issues to be worked out. It come with the #705 plaque. I learned years ago, never buy a first run.
 
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