[sandman_chieftain]

I’m brand new to this, have an 18 chieftain limited and just bought “my version” of the stage 2-
Lloyd’z 585 cams
Tab/zombies
Indian high flow intake
Jackpot head pipe
Powervision 3.
Bike is in the shop now installing.

It’s my understanding that pv3 is the newest but haven’t seen anyone talking about it. The dealership is doing all the mods because they’ll help me maintain the warranty by allowing them to install and tune. What issues should I anticipate from this setup and does anyone have any idea how the new tuner is all you can buy from dynojet or fuel moto? I’m shooting for 106hp dyno’d after all said and done. Be gentle I’m a newbie.

 

[CraigB1960]

With a proper tune, expect 100-102hp and 116-120tq. The Power Vision 3, or PV-3 is the next version of flash tuner from Dynojet. The preceding one is the Power Vision CX. They perform basically the same. If you want a comparison as well as other tuner related information on Indians, you can read up on My Indian Roadmaster Blog

 

[17NDNSTL]

I’m brand new to this, have an 18 chieftain limited and just bought “my version” of the stage 2-
Lloyd’z 585 cams
Tab/zombies
Indian high flow intake
Jackpot head pipe
Powervision 3.
Bike is in the shop now installing.

It’s my understanding that pv3 is the newest but haven’t seen anyone talking about it. The dealership is doing all the mods because they’ll help me maintain the warranty by allowing them to install and tune. What issues should I anticipate from this setup and does anyone have any idea how the new tuner is all you can buy from dynojet or fuel moto? I’m shooting for 106hp dyno’d after all said and done. Be gentle I’m a newbie.

So they told you if they installed these aftermarket mods, that that maintains your warranty?

Btw, welcome to the tribe.

 

[sandman_chieftain]

So they told you if they installed these aftermarket mods, that that maintains your warranty?

Btw, welcome to the tribe.

Yes, the dealership told me they’ll back up Lloyd’z stuff but only if they installed. They didn’t want public knowledge that they did it though...oops. They did mention to hang on to the factory cams “just in case”. Thanks for the replies.

 

[17NDNSTL]

With a proper tune, expect 100-102hp and 116-120tq. The Power Vision 3, or PV-3 is the next version of flash tuner from Dynojet. The preceding one is the Power Vision CX. They perform basically the same. If you want a comparison as well as other tuner related information on Indians, you can read up on My Indian Roadmaster Blog

Nice blog Craig!

 

[17NDNSTL]

Yes, the dealership told me they’ll back up Lloyd’z stuff but only if they installed. They didn’t want public knowledge that they did it though...oops. They did mention to hang on to the factory cams “just in case”. Thanks for the replies.

If you have a major malfunction in the engine, you won't be able to hide it. Guarantee Polaris will void your warranty.
Ask them to put that promise in writing. Only way I do those sort of upgrades is when my plan has expired.

 

[DMG]

If you have a major malfunction in the engine, you won't be able to hide it. Guarantee Polaris will void your warranty.
Ask them to put that promise in writing. Only way I do those sort of upgrades is when my plan has expired.

Wow,such expert information!Eat some more oxy and play with the keyboard jerk.

 

[Jchris56]

Sounds like you have a great dealer. I’m sure you’ll be very happy with that setup

 

[Delnari]

All my motorcycle dealers (BMW, KTM, and Indian) I buy from will install aftermarket parts and warranty the bike. They do ask I buy the parts through them though.

 

[Baron58]

If you have a major malfunction in the engine, you won't be able to hide it. Guarantee Polaris will void your warranty.
Ask them to put that promise in writing. Only way I do those sort of upgrades is when my plan has expired.

Many dealers will install aftermarket parts and honor the warranty on their end which means when they submit to Polaris, the bike is "stock" on the submission paperwork.(Thus the reason the OP dealers doesn't want everyone to know they installed them) But it a major failure of the engine or transmission happens and Polaris sends their engineering reps to look at, then yes game over.

 

[17NDNSTL]

Many dealers will install aftermarket parts and honor the warranty on their end which means when they submit to Polaris, the bike is "stock" on the submission paperwork.(Thus the reason the OP dealers doesn't want everyone to know they installed them) But it a major failure of the engine or transmission happens and Polaris sends their engineering reps to look at, then yes game over.

Sometimes if the dealer is stumped on what the issue is, they will have Polaris techs hook into the ECU via computer to see if they can solve the issue as well.

I just wouldn't chance it myself for the amount of time a normal rider is going to maximize the added HP and Torque. These are touring machines after all, not crotch rockets.

Same goes for the 116 upgrade. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I felt like utilizing that extra power. If I had it to do all over again, I'd stay with the Stage 2 and just enjoy the lope idle.

 

[T120R69]

Sometimes if the dealer is stumped on what the issue is, they will have Polaris techs hook into the ECU via computer to see if they can solve the issue as well..

Does the dealer charge for connecting to the ECU when the bike is still in warren-tee?

 

[CraigB1960]

Does the dealer charge for connecting to the ECU when the bike is still in warren-tee?

It was my experience no charge while my bike was under warranty. (They do charge Polaris).

 

[17NDNSTL]

Does the dealer charge for connecting to the ECU when the bike is still in warren-tee?

They charge Polaris.

 

[Adriaan]

Hello Craig,

I want to stop with the EJK and order the PV3,is it necessary to put the 02 sensors back on exhaust if i run the PV3.

Regards,
Sjarrel

 

[pablo94]

I wonder if the OP knows he should change his springs...

 

[CraigB1960]

Hello Craig,

I want to stop with the EJK and order the PV3,is it necessary to put the 02 sensors back on exhaust if i run the PV3.

Regards,
Sjarrel

Yes unless you get a dyno tune and the operator keeps it in open-loop. In that case, you would keep the bypasses installed to keep from throwing the O2 codes.

But, I highly recommend you re-install them and run a standard tune, including the factory if needed.

 

[Adriaan]

Yes unless you get a dyno tune and the operator keeps it in open-loop. In that case, you would keep the bypasses installed to keep from throwing the O2 codes.

But, I highly recommend you re-install them and run a standard tune, including the factory if needed.

 

[Adriaan]

Craig,
This message was from member Eddiec;

My Chieftain with the PCV installed has the O2 sensors removed and the holes plugged...no codes, just runs awsomer

 

[Cadillac]

If you have a major malfunction in the engine, you won't be able to hide it. Guarantee Polaris will void your warranty.
Ask them to put that promise in writing. Only way I do those sort of upgrades is when my plan has expired.

Wow!
Having a 14 Chieftain, I have been around for a few days.
I'll say Indian is not Harley, in several ways.
You can beat an Indian for a couple hundred thousand miles and it will just ask for more.
I don't know of Indian ever rushing to kill anyone's warranty, just the opposite.
The only denial I remember, a friend had enough hi amp lights on his bike to see across 2 states.
He fried the VCM and destroyed the harness.
The tech called warranty, they went over the request and just had one question.
How many lights are on that bike?
The tech told them, 120 watt headlight, 75 watt spots and 75 watt spots on his crash bar...
Factory Warranty denied...
Lets make a deal, tell him if he will remove those lights, we will ship the parts and pay the labor this time only under our "Good Will Warranty".
The next thing that comes to mind was shorly after the BBK's release, 2 of our notorious tuners set the rev limiters a little high and scattered 3 engines.
Surely not Polaris/Indian's fault. No one would have faulted them for that denial.
Indian took the calls and shipped 3 new factory built BBK complete engines to the dealers and picked up the labor.
From the first bikes until today, the engineering on our bikes is over kill.
My dealer sells lots of bikes.
From day one until the BBK release they had never had a head off a bike for repair.
These engines and transmissions are bullet proof as long as you choose Indian parts and stay together with most aftermarket parts.
I don't know of anyone who has not been satisfied with their treatment when dealing with Warranty issues on these bikes.
There are dealers out there one should avoid who like to play chicken shit games but generally one call to Indian Customer Service will even get you past those idiots.
Everything about our Indians is first class and that includes our warranty's.
Indian has never gone looking for a reason to void someone's warranty. They don't have to.
I'd guess Indian set aside maybe $2000 for the 5 year warranty on my 14 Chieftain.
The bikes are so good that Indian still has my $2000 in their pocket today and I have not been nice to this bike, I beat the shit out of it everyday.