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OT Harley 120 Is the Thunder Stroke 111 the reason?

5.9K views 15 replies 12 participants last post by  joe106  
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Yes, I believe so. Without competition pushing them forward, H-D usually sits back and watches the money roll in.
 
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I think Harley is getting in to the niche market with a street legal 120, if that is what this is. Say they sell 10,000 of these worldwide. They get a small tick in sales volume but take back of bit of market share. I think it's a good strategy but a small market.

Electric and smaller urban bikes like the Scout, the Harley 500 and 700 may be huge sellers. Especially to the younger crowd. If the price point on the Electrics are good I think India and China will make sales go through the ceiling.

How much money did Harley pay to get their Electric in the new movie the age of ultron?

1 great nephew has a bobbed sportster and another great nephew just bought a fat bob. Neither want to ride across the country or even a short trip on the bike. They like to tool around in the city and look good.

I think this 120 is just a niche and bragging rights marketing move.
 
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H-D has had it for a while. They called it "The Screaming Eagle Pro TC 120" and it was available in a kit (Kit No. 92500008) to modify your existing engine with a big bore kit. It looks like they could be pulling the kits off of the shelf and introducing it as a new engine. Why? I think you all hit the nail on the head. Indian 111 pushed them to do it. It's a no brainer. They were already manufacturing the kit so why not throw it on their production bikes? Good for them. Okay Polaris... your turn;)
 
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Interesting. It says it has the potential for 135 HP and 137 TQ. I assume that's at the crank so if you take the normal drivetrain loss that would make it about 115 and 116 at the rear wheel. Pretty respectable numbers, but since this is an off-road street version they would need to do some EPA crap to it. So I imagine it would be about a 105/105 bike. Vastly superior to any other stock H-D engine and probably have the ability to open it up fairly cheap and easy.

If that's the reality of the numbers, Indian is not far behind on TQ (101) with 9 less cubes, and Victory is about the same (106) with 14 less cubes.
 
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Kawasaki had the Vulcan 2000 which displaced 2053 cc or 125 ci. I tested one and it was fairly impressive but the market didn't buy in. Outside of the V-TWIN range Triumph has the 2300cc triple. Large displacement doesn't secure sales.
 
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