Why would it surprise you that a manufacture recommends a product they sell? Why would you expect your dealer to recommend anything against what the manufacture recommends?Engine Oil Recommendation
We recommend the use of INDIAN MOTORYCLE Premium Synthetic Blend 20W-40 Engine Oil for your motorcycle. This oil is formulated with synthetic-based oil and premium engine additive which have physical properties that meet API SM and ILSAC GF-4 specifications.
Do not blend oil additives with engine oil.
If oil must be added in an emergency and the recommended oil is not available, choose only a high-quality 20W-40 motorcycle oil. Change back to the recommended oil at the first opportunity.
NOTICE: Use of non-recommended lubricants can result in engine damage. Damage resulting from the use of non recommended lubricants is not covered by warranty.
Boy are you out in left field... there's no need to be an axxhole about it. No-one said for you to use any oil other than what you want to use... we don't care either! And we sure as heck don't want you to expand your knowledge base and acknowledge that there is more than one way to skin a cat... stay comfortable in your ignorant bliss by all means.You asked "I would like to know WHY, my dealer....whom I'm sure is not alone, keep toting their 20-40 syn." To which I provided the answer in the form of a direct quote from the owners manual and stated "Why would you expect your dealer to recommend anything against what the manufacture recommends?"
I am fully aware of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. However, I guess you missed it when I said "I don't want to risk having a legal battle with Indian to prove or disprove the cause of the failure so I am going to use the recommended oil." I will not use any oil other than the recommended oil during the warranty period, nor do I expect to change the oil I'm using after the warranty PERIOD. You nor anyone else's opinion, honest or otherwise, will change that...ever.
OTOH, you may have also missed it when I said "Of course you can use whatever oil you want to in your bike." Use whatever oil you want to use. I could care less what you do with your bike. Just don't expect me, or anyone else for that matter, to agree with you when I don't.
Your first two posts on the forum are divisive and argumentative which makes me think
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But maybe I'm wrong...
I felt my first reponse was sufficient to answer the question and saw the response with the !!! and the ??? as argumenative. Since this was the only two posts Joe made it irked me a bit.Boy are you out in left field... there's no need to be an axxhole about it. No-one said for you to use any oil other than what you want to use... we don't care either! And we sure as heck don't want you to expand your knowledge base and acknowledge that there is more than one way to skin a cat... stay comfortable in your ignorant bliss by all means.
What you were told about the Magnuson-Moss Act is correct, and the onus is on the manufacturer to prove that the oil used was the problem... not the other way around.
Joe... welcome to the forum, don't let one turd spoil the experience.
That's great news...I've been using Amsoil in my Triumphs for years...cars tooOk guy's here the skinny on Amsoil. First of by them not me. Amsoil currently does not make a compatible oil for the 2014 Indians. They recommend an SM rated oil. Current Amsoil 10W40 Syn is only rated SJ. But my contacts at Amsoil are currently working on a 20W40 just for the Indian and Vic lines. So just hang on a little longer and we will have our wish.
If you want a good laugh, read the section about washing your bike in a Harley Davidson owners manual. "Fill a Harley Davidson bucket [HD part number here] with water and Harley Davidson bike wash [HD part number here]. Using a Harley Davidson sponge [HD Part number here] ....Why would it surprise you that a manufacture recommends a product they sell? Why would you expect your dealer to recommend anything against what the manufacture recommends?