Alright, I've been reading thru the forum on apes for the Springfield and it seems everyone who's gone that way has gone right to the 16". I just went to the dealer to check them out and they're a bit too tall for me. I'm just about 6' and I want to keep my hands just at or below my shoulders so I'm thinking 12-14" rise bars. I've been looking all over the inter webs and can't seem to find anything that fits the '17 Springfield. Anyone out there been there and done that? Any assistance would be great.