These pipes were installed on my bike when I did the Indian Large Air Cleaner and pipe upgrade. I have now went with a stage 3 setup with Jackpot header and stock pipe exhaust system. These pipes are in very nice condition with a few very small scratches that are on the under side from road debris. They look and work very nice all around. They have approx 9000 miles on them. I also have a set of Black Six Shooter Tips as well for purchase separately If you want them too.