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The Navajo nation is stopping all harleys on run to Sturgis I heard some of the tribe is getting thru. Say harleys are virus magnets. Ride free
 

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When I watched the article. It bothered me that a lot of native Americans do not have running water. Wonder if we can't help somehow
It is called tax free living, free health care and casinos. Many of these Indian casinos make a serious amount of money but it seems like little gets back to the reservation. D
 

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It is called tax free living, free health care and casinos. Many of these Indian casinos make a serious amount of money but it seems like little gets back to the reservation. D
Their free health care makes the VA look competent. No fully government health care in this country is any good. The only thing worse than their health care is their school system, courtesy again of our government
 

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Point was there is no free tax ride sounds like you need to go for long. Ride free
 

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Point was there is no free tax ride sounds like you need to go for long. Ride free
Here, educate yourself. I will correct myself on one thing. Reservations are mostly tax exempt but individuals are usually taxed. I personally know of a couple of Indian reservation casinos that operate corporate jets. D
 

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When I had my small general contracting business (3-5 employees) I had a young fella working for me who was an American Indian. He was about 28-30 years old, a great worker/employee and we became good buds over the years. He chose to live off the reservation (Onondaga Nation here in central NY). We'd get into conversations about life on the "Res" and the life choices many of his people made. He told me that, although most were a proud people and proud of their heritage, barring a few exceptions most of those who lived on the Res were lazy and lacked much if any ambition, too fark'n lazy to get jobs.

Seems to be a lot of that going on in all parts of the USA with all kinds and colors. Live off government freebies then bidtch and burn when they think they should be getting more. Teach a man to fish.
 

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Not sure why the Veterans Affairs system has to be brought up in this conversation.... The VA is not perfect, but it has taken care of many Veterans for a long time and I personally have benefitted from it... And so have all my friends, to which I only know of 1 that had a legitimate complaint against the VA. Your opinion may vary and I'm good with that, but I'm certainly not good with the premise that the VA system is broken. If more Veterans stopped trying to "Milk the System" for all it is worth, the system would of course benefit from those that do that type of thing. Sorry couldn't let that pass without a comment.
 

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Listen, not trying to make this into an Indian bashing thing. I lived in Oklahoma for a number of years and saw things that would make it hard to be very sympathetic to there needs, but then I did a ride in New Mexico that rode past some reservation housing that would pull at your heart strings to see that people could live that way. D
 

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I use the VA and never have any problems (before the virus, of course)

But that's just me. I am grateful for the almost free care
 

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Listen, not trying to make this into an Indian bashing thing. I lived in Oklahoma for a number of years and saw things that would make it hard to be very sympathetic to there needs, but then I did a ride in New Mexico that rode past some reservation housing that would pull at your heart strings to see that people could live that way. D
Indeed. Anyone who has experience with a tipi can tell you they're positively luxurious, not to mention beautiful, when compared to how some natives are currently living. It is truly sad that their way of life was lost.
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So, to get back to the subject. Why aren't they letting Harleys through? I would think they'd let the Indian bikes through?
 

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When I watched the article. It bothered me that a lot of native Americans do not have running water. Wonder if we can't help somehow
In Arizona some do not have running water or electricity. Some have volunteered to run electricity and water to homes but their location makes it very tough as some live many miles apart. Some have to drive 2+ hours to get water. I am not sure about the Navaho nation but where I live in Arizona the water table is 350' to 800' down so a well for someone without money or income is out of the question.
 

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I'm in New Mexico, and have family in Flagstaff, so we kind of bracket the east and west ends of the Dinetah, the Navajo homeland. The Navajo are having a rough time of it with the virus. The second and third worst counties in New Mexico include Navajo land. Only Albuquerque's county has more. If I were riding and they turned me back, I'd wish them well and find another route.
 

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In Arizona some do not have running water or electricity. Some have volunteered to run electricity and water to homes but their location makes it very tough as some live many miles apart. Some have to drive 2+ hours to get water. I am not sure about the Navaho nation but where I live in Arizona the water table is 350' to 800' down so a well for someone without money or income is out of the question.
I am only asking because I truly don't know. Are they still being forced to stay on the reservations? Could they not get jobs and move?





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You quoted my text so I feel your question is somewhat directed towards me. And my reply is I feel that I am not qualified to answer your question because I am not involved with the Navaho Nation and know nothing about their circumstances. Maybe someone else will be more qualified than me which would be easy to do.
 

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The Penobscot in Indian Township, Maine near my home here have closed off the Reservation to outsiders. They have checkpoints set up at all access roads. I haven't been down to Sipyak (Pleasant Point) near Eastport yet which is another Penobscot town. I just got out of the 14 day quarantine Maine requires upon arrival from out of state.
 
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