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I see there are some new comments. I will respond when I get to my destination. Right now I’m standing in a raceway beer cooler to cool off! 🤣 Savannah Indian said my bike had almost no coolant. They filled the reservoir (for free! Can you imagine?! Lol), but obviously I might have a bigger issue than a dealer not checking/filling it, because it’s hard to believe any dealer would do that. But…the intense heat I’m experiencing is still there. Bike still running at 184/185 and up to 211 at a stop. Bike operates normally, and I know those temps raise no concerns. It’s the scorching heat I feel while riding that has created this conundrum for me.

Either I have something wrong with my bike based on my experience, or all of a sudden there is something wrong with me and I’m getting hit by the heat in a way I’ve never experienced. For those who aren’t familiar with DC, we get 95 degree, 90-100% humidity days plenty, so the temps down here are nothing new. I’ve never felt the need to remove my mesh jacket - not on my scout, chieftain, or the challenger, so this is just weird! And I’ve ridden thousands of miles in this type of heat. I put 10k on my Chieftain mostly over the summer of 2020. Never felt anything like this. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway, I’m heading back to Savannah on my way home and they’re going to do a thorough investigation. They immediately asked me about a couple of issues I’ve been having with the bike. You know the kind - you feel/hear them immediately, but your dealer says “seems fine to me 🤷‍♂️). So I’m comfy with them so far.
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Low coolant in the reservoir does NOT mean low coolant in the system. The fact that topping it off did not reduce the heat and the temps at 184-185 AND 211 at a stop tells me the cooling system is functioning properly. I assume you have the fairing vents open to allow more airflow to you?
 

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Low coolant in the reservoir does NOT mean low coolant in the system. The fact that topping it off did not reduce the heat and the temps at 184-185 AND 211 at a stop tells me the cooling system is functioning properly. I assume you have the fairing vents open to allow more airflow to you?
Yup, the vents are open. Bike feels like it’s operating totally normal. I’m in St Augustine and temps are 93, and humidity is down to 51. Feels no different. Anyway, just made my last gas stop and beer cooler visit. We’ll figure it out one way or another!
 

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My connection oven, I mean Challenger is now throwing a code P0030 Oxygen Sensor Heater 1 (pre)(front) Circuit Open/Grounded

FYI: I’ve been running Rineharts with a Tab Cat Delete since last summer. A couple months ago I got the Indian factory flash.
 

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Just something else to think about is your pants material. I bought some wrangler jeans with spandex in it which makes them more stretchy which in turn makes them more comfortable but spandex is a type of plastic and not considered a good insulator and will transfer more heat directly to your ankle/skin then a pair of 100% pure cotton jeans.

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Well, I’m in Daytona. I can report that after my last stop, where I guzzled two big bottles of water and stood in the beer cooler for 20 minutes, once I got back on the bike things felt much better. As I mentioned, once I rolled into St Augustine the temp was down to 93 and humidity was down to 51% - much different than what I was dealing with yesterday in SC & GA. So embarrassing to say after all the posts, but this was probably me being dehydrated. Per other comments I drank all day yesterday. But not 2 bottles of water or Gatorade every stop. And I didn’t have to take a leak each time, so I probably just overdid it in the heat! But I’m still going to Savannah Indian next Friday, because I’m riding that way anyway, and I’m going to have them fix my brakes, fix my drive belt, and they’ll do a thorough check to make sure everything is ok.

Sorry if I alarmed any Challenger owners with a potential mystery problem. lol And thanks to everyone for your comments!

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I feel like that with my soft lower close outs on when it’s warm out. Not like pass out but def warm/hot air swirling around my legs and feet. It gets ‘satan’s taint’ hot out here too


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Yup, feel that with my soft lowers. Outstanding in the winter (I don’t even need to use my heated boot liners!), but those puppies came off by March! 👍
 

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Just something else to think about is your pants material. I bought some wrangler jeans with spandex in it which makes them more stretchy which in turn makes them more comfortable but spandex is a type of plastic and not considered a good insulator and will transfer more heat directly to your ankle/skin then a pair of 100% pure cotton jeans.

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Good point. I was wearing a pair of Dainese riding pants - thin/stretchy, and they have vents in the legs to let air in. I don’t think that part is particularly effective. One thing I know for sure is my mesh jacket is a size too big, and the material folds over itself in spots, eliminating the benefit of the mesh. Def time to shop for new threads!
 

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When it's that hot make sure and stop a little more often to hydrate. Bottled water or maybe Gatorade or similar sports drink will do. Pushing yourself for too long will only make things worse for you.
 

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Hydration is key to comfort and survival, BUT keeping our core temperature down is of paramount, and that INCLUDES our coconut. COLD.if not ICE COLD liquids are a must, room temp liquids do nothing to bring our body temp down. My go to fullface helmet for my sportbike is black and it's kinda warm but my noggin is out in the breeze, albeit hot. But riding my first cruiser 12 years ago, even with a black open faced half helmet I felt my brain was gettin fried. AS SOON as I started wearing a white helmet that feeling was reduced quite a bit, and the white color helps me to visibly stand out better to others.

This has been a great thread where we have come together as a "fellowship" to help a member, but in the end we are ALL helped.This I fear is gonna be a brutal summer as it's hotter down here in S. Fla than normal and I'm a year older, we gotta remember, at least for me, one year older and I feel it.

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When it's that hot make sure and stop a little more often to hydrate. Bottled water or maybe Gatorade or similar sports drink will do. Pushing yourself for too long will only make things worse for you.
Yup! I think someone said earlier if you don’t have to take a leak all the time you’re not drinking enough! Likely what happened to me this trip!
 

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Hydration is key to comfort and survival, BUT keeping our core temperature down is of paramount, and that INCLUDES our coconut. COLD.if not ICE COLD liquids are a must, room temp liquids do nothing to bring our body temp down. My go to fullface helmet for my sportbike is black and it's kinda warm but my noggin is out in the breeze, albeit hot. But riding my first cruiser 12 years ago, even with a black open faced half helmet I felt my brain was gettin fried. AS SOON as I started wearing a white helmet that feeling was reduced quite a bit, and the white color helps me to visibly stand out better to others.

This has been a great thread where we have come together as a "fellowship" to help a member, but in the end we are ALL helped.This I fear is gonna be a brutal summer as it's hotter down here in S. Fla than normal and I'm a year older, we gotta remember, at least for me, one year older and I feel it.

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I appreciate everyone’s input! I feel old! 🤦‍♂️🤣
 

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I'm not a Challenger owner, so this may or may not be relevant. Installed an entire Rinehart system on my 2016 Chieftain, getting rid of the CAT dropped temps 60+ degrees. Not sure how much that would help a Challenger, it probably would cool down the exhaust heat where the CAT is or isn't
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I appreciate it, and will go delete my poor take. Your comment was spot on I think. 🤦‍♂️
I too removed my snarky comment/response.

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I definatly feel the heat radiating off the rear primary tube on my Challenger and my Victory.Tried a DEI insulator kit on the Vic but not much better.Thinking about using JetHot on the Vic as a test and if successful will do the same on the Challenger.Both bikes are running Bassani 2-1 pipes.
 

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Hydration is key to comfort and survival, BUT keeping our core temperature down is of paramount, and that INCLUDES our coconut. COLD.if not ICE COLD liquids are a must, room temp liquids do nothing to bring our body temp down.
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Hence my trusty cooler rack. After getting stuck on I10 in traffic in Houston a few years ago. 102 deg/100% humidity I swore I’d never be without water again. A soaker vest and cap under the helmet does wonders, if only for 90 minutes or so. By then it may be time to stop and wet everything down again. I’ve gone so far as to throw a 10lb bag of ice over my lap.
 

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Yup, the vents are open. Bike feels like it’s operating totally normal. I’m in St Augustine and temps are 93, and humidity is down to 51. Feels no different. Anyway, just made my last gas stop and beer cooler visit. We’ll figure it out one way or another!
Yep it even gets hot up here in Wyoming. My ‘21 Challenger runs at least as cool as the ‘13 Gold Wing. Stage 1 exhaust, cat still in place, see no need to remove it because heat on the lower extremities has not been an issue for 13k miles. I rode in triple digits last summer in California. Close to triple digits and high humidity in the south east ie….Ky, NC, SC,Ga and had no ill effects. And coming from Wyoming I’m not acclimated.
 

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Hence my trusty cooler rack. After getting stuck on I10 in traffic in Houston a few years ago. 102 deg/100% humidity I swore I’d never be without water again. A soaker vest and cap under the helmet does wonders, if only for 90 minutes or so. By then it may be time to stop and wet everything down again. I’ve gone so far as to throw a 10lb bag of ice over my lap.
I use a camelback backpack that keeps my liquid of choice, usually Gatorade cold for 12 hrs. I strap it on backseat and run straw/tube over my shoulder and it has a clip to keep it there. Definitely a must on long trips especially in the heat down south
 
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