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Hey all, wanted to see if anyone has had this experience. I’m on a road trip from the DMV to FL, stopped in GA. For the last 4 hours of my trip today I experienced extreme heat coming from the engine. This was not just a cloud of hot air around the engine, it was like a blow dryer on max blast! Has anyone experienced this? I’m at 20,000 miles, all recommended maintenance has been done, including the latest factory ECU flash. This heat was so powerful, so consistent, and so unpleasant that I had to ride my bike without my mesh jacket for the first time ever. The heat emanating from the engine was so strong, losing the jacket didn’t even really make a difference. It’s so bad that I’m wondering if I should leave the bike with Indian Daytona and fly home. I seriously almost passed out. 🤣 Sure, it was a very hot day today, but I’ve ridden all my bikes in high temps/high humidity, and I’ve never experienced anything like this!

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Were you looking at the bike temp? Was it hotter than normal?
It was steady at 184 the entire time. My bike is usually running in the 180s. What was weird is it was like - as I said - a blow dryer on both sides of the bike. So odd! Never felt anything like
It, including on my chieftain. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Probably hot air coming of the radiator
Right. Part of me thinks “hey, hot day, you were wiped out, you’re imagining that it was this big calamity.” But man, I have ridden plenty in hot/humid weather, and this was just odd/unusual/atypical. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Ive got 16,500 miles on mine, and the lower fairings... city riding at rush hour here in jacksonville, FL mine will get up to 209 and kick the fan on.. brings it back down to 194... thats the only time i'll experience anything like a blow dryer coming from the motor.. that being said.. never anything even remotely close to the amount of heat you're describing. Are you still running the cat?
Yeah, my bike is still stock.
 

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Thanks for all the feedback! I think/hope that the heat just got to me after a long day, and it was definitely hot in southern SC/northern GA. Bike said the ambient temp was 99-103. Bike ran great, engine temp was stable. Maybe I had some mild heat exhaustion or something, and it just seemed unusual. 🤷‍♂️ I’m on my way to FL later today - will report back if I experience the same phenomenon or I catch fire! 🤣
 

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add about 10 more degrees for heat index over what the bike says the outside temp is. I rode Tuesday and it was 112 with the heat index and my bike has factory hard lowers so it’s hotter than a regular challenger. Even so I don’t get uncomfortable unless I have to sit in traffic forever then my right leg gets hot from the exhaust
Right, that’s why yesterday was so weird. I’ve ridden in plenty of high temps/high humidity (high 90s/100% humidity) weather in DC. Never experienced anything like this though, but with the bike acting normally, I can only suspect I’m the one with the defect. 🤣 I’m hitting the road shortly, so we will find out! 🏍💥💥
 

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Just thinking out loud.... On a hot day sitting on top of an internal combustion engine with a radiator/fan right in front of the driver, and the driver is feeling hot air. This isn't really a deep thought moment, for me.
Deleted my original response cause I’m a dummy. 😉
 

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If you're coming down to FL today, stay hydrated. Local news is putting the index at 112 for a high.
Absolutely! Rode about 50 miles and the heat/blow torch was in full effect, right as I was riding by Indian of Savannah, so I stopped in. They’re checking, and their concern is my dealer forgot to tend to the coolant level on the bike when I had it serviced 2 weeks ago. No codes or messages though, so who knows. Will let you all know if there’s a problem, or if the problem is me. 🤣
 

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I believe @WillyH was just being funnee, I understand where you r coming from but I laffed at his response. Reminded me of that giff bout bikers are crazy we put a hot engine with gasoline sitting on top of it between our legs funnee...
I get it. The sarcasm just kinda went past me reading too quick. I always appreciate responses when I have a question. It’s tough when you don't have a lot of experience with bikes, but you still ride a lot - you never know if it’s an actual issue, or if it’s just you. 🤷‍♂️🤣
 

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The fan is enclosed in a shroud that when the fan is on directs the hot air DOWN under the engine. In stop n go on a stock bike and the fan on one can feel the heat down at the ankles, coming from the cat and hot air from the fan operation.

Now goin down the road with temps in the high 90's or above the heat felt is from many sources, from the upper exhaust tubing (rite side only), from the engine (both sides) and the hot air coming outa the radiator.(both sides). 184 engine temp is well within range but ya gotta figure how much HOTTER THAT AIR IS coming outa the radiator when ambient temp is also high. Add into the mix is high humidity and we are sitting in an oven next to a pot of boiling water. WE ARE HOT, not the engine, but the RADIANT heat coming from all the mentioned sources gets us,

AND something I found out is in 2011 when I bought my first bagger, a Kawi Vaquero, and especially with my Challenger, is that big ole fairing up front that werks very well in wind protection (specially in cold temps) werks against us when it is hot.I came from the sportbike werld and bought that first bagger in June 2011 and on one long Sunday ride I was near heat exhaustion, was very dangerous. We get a good amount of airflow on a sportbike so I learned real quick to keep my body cool.

I came off a 2016 Chieftain of 4.5 years to my Challenger (in Feb 2021) and was VERY happy with the improved wind protection (we were still in mild temps of 70) until late May early June when it got hot, and realized wow whats good when it's cool not so good when it's hot.

I have insulated the inside of my exhaust heat shields which made a HUGE improvement in how much heat gets to me., along with wrapping the TAB cat delete with exhaust heat wrapping, good set of slip-ons, DynoJet flash, K&N filter along with the Indian STG1 intake, modified intake snorkel and my own "ram air" intake skoop so the engine is getting alot of cool fresh air. With outside temps and humidity comparable to elsewhere (high 90's high humidity) running down the road I am seeing 180-182 engine temp.

But I am hot. I also learned that wearing a black helmet when it is so hot cooked my coconut, and a white helmet helps ALOT.

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Thanks for that. For whatever reason, at 20,000 I still prefer to keep my bike stock. Haven’t felt a need for any performance upgrades, and I haven’t had any reason to tinker for heat management purposes. I had a Chieftain prior to the Challenger, and honestly - I only had 1 day when I experienced miserable heat issues on that stock bike. It was 102, high humidity, and I was in stop & go traffic. Outside of that one event, the Thunderstroke treated me well heat-wise. 🤷‍♂️

My noggin was definitely frying yesterday in my black Shoei.The sun visor wasn’t even any help - just trapped hot air inside. Today it’s sunglasses and no visor!

Anyway, we’ll see what the dealer says. As upset with my own dealer as I’ll be if it’s a low coolant situation, I’m hoping that’s exactly what it is and my operating temp is back to a solid 180! 🤣
 

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Indian of Savannah is my dealer, and they do good work. Relax, have a frosty at Hooters and enjoy the heat and humidity of the Lowcountry!
I don’t know man. They have an amazingly beautiful Chieftain in that new gray/platinum color. Maybe I should do a trade and get back to basics! 🤣
 

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I see there are some new comments. I will respond when I get to my destination. Right now I’m standing in a raceway beer cooler to cool off! 🤣 Savannah Indian said my bike had almost no coolant. They filled the reservoir (for free! Can you imagine?! Lol), but obviously I might have a bigger issue than a dealer not checking/filling it, because it’s hard to believe any dealer would do that. But…the intense heat I’m experiencing is still there. Bike still running at 184/185 and up to 211 at a stop. Bike operates normally, and I know those temps raise no concerns. It’s the scorching heat I feel while riding that has created this conundrum for me.

Either I have something wrong with my bike based on my experience, or all of a sudden there is something wrong with me and I’m getting hit by the heat in a way I’ve never experienced. For those who aren’t familiar with DC, we get 95 degree, 90-100% humidity days plenty, so the temps down here are nothing new. I’ve never felt the need to remove my mesh jacket - not on my scout, chieftain, or the challenger, so this is just weird! And I’ve ridden thousands of miles in this type of heat. I put 10k on my Chieftain mostly over the summer of 2020. Never felt anything like this. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway, I’m heading back to Savannah on my way home and they’re going to do a thorough investigation. They immediately asked me about a couple of issues I’ve been having with the bike. You know the kind - you feel/hear them immediately, but your dealer says “seems fine to me 🤷‍♂️). So I’m comfy with them so far.
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Low coolant in the reservoir does NOT mean low coolant in the system. The fact that topping it off did not reduce the heat and the temps at 184-185 AND 211 at a stop tells me the cooling system is functioning properly. I assume you have the fairing vents open to allow more airflow to you?
Yup, the vents are open. Bike feels like it’s operating totally normal. I’m in St Augustine and temps are 93, and humidity is down to 51. Feels no different. Anyway, just made my last gas stop and beer cooler visit. We’ll figure it out one way or another!
 

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Well, I’m in Daytona. I can report that after my last stop, where I guzzled two big bottles of water and stood in the beer cooler for 20 minutes, once I got back on the bike things felt much better. As I mentioned, once I rolled into St Augustine the temp was down to 93 and humidity was down to 51% - much different than what I was dealing with yesterday in SC & GA. So embarrassing to say after all the posts, but this was probably me being dehydrated. Per other comments I drank all day yesterday. But not 2 bottles of water or Gatorade every stop. And I didn’t have to take a leak each time, so I probably just overdid it in the heat! But I’m still going to Savannah Indian next Friday, because I’m riding that way anyway, and I’m going to have them fix my brakes, fix my drive belt, and they’ll do a thorough check to make sure everything is ok.

Sorry if I alarmed any Challenger owners with a potential mystery problem. lol And thanks to everyone for your comments!

sincerely,
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Discussion Starter · #48 ·
I feel like that with my soft lower close outs on when it’s warm out. Not like pass out but def warm/hot air swirling around my legs and feet. It gets ‘satan’s taint’ hot out here too


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Yup, feel that with my soft lowers. Outstanding in the winter (I don’t even need to use my heated boot liners!), but those puppies came off by March! 👍
 

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Just something else to think about is your pants material. I bought some wrangler jeans with spandex in it which makes them more stretchy which in turn makes them more comfortable but spandex is a type of plastic and not considered a good insulator and will transfer more heat directly to your ankle/skin then a pair of 100% pure cotton jeans.

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Good point. I was wearing a pair of Dainese riding pants - thin/stretchy, and they have vents in the legs to let air in. I don’t think that part is particularly effective. One thing I know for sure is my mesh jacket is a size too big, and the material folds over itself in spots, eliminating the benefit of the mesh. Def time to shop for new threads!
 
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