[masspatriot]

In the last month, occasionally when starting (mostly while stopping for gas, etc.) it fails to start immediately but seems to run on one cylinder and eventually cuts out and the compression release is heard. I let go of the start button immediately, but it continues as if the starter is hung up. on a few occasions, I did get a few ABS voltage codes, so I replaced the battery with a non Yuasa. Bike has 4 seasons and 27000 miles so I opted for a battery and checked all connections. It did the hard start once again a few days ago.
I thought I'd run this by you smart people and get some brainstorming. I am a decent wrench, but this is a bit unusual. Bike is stock except for Stage 1 AC and PVCX.
Thanks
Phil

 

[Jw roadmaster]

I had to replace my starter. It started to act like a bad battery, so I did the battery and no improvement. Starts better than ever with the new starter.

 

[Dieseldoc]

These bikes starter button doesn't actually command the starter,only initiates an autocrank controlled by the ECM.You may have a weak starter not getting the engine up to speed for a good start allowing the ECM to disconnect.

 

[theMucker]

You mention that you heard the compression release. I think that hearing it would be impossible because it's a simple mechanical device that operates at RPMs under idle speed and, after the engine starts, centrifugal force disengages it.
If that new battery is fully charged, I suspect that your starter motor may be on it's last leg.

 

[high plains rider]

Same thing on mine.. two riding seasons 20K on the clock... but no codes... every so often it seems the starter is hanging up.. but the bike isn't running... when she finally kicks in everything seems ok.. watching this

 

[masspatriot]

I was able to capture it on video. This time it started relatively quickly. Usually a lot longer. You can hear the compression release or a backfire.
Well it doesn't like the .mov format from the iphone.

 

[Kitulu]

What year is your bike? My '17 had the starter replaced under warranty because the older starters had no seal between the gear and the engine, and oil mist would eventually gum up the starter.

 

[masspatriot]

What year is your bike? My '17 had the starter replaced under warranty because the older starters had no seal between the gear and the engine, and oil mist would eventually gum up the starter.

2017 Chieftain Limited. Built March 2017, I believe. I have extended warranty until 2022. If not, I would just replace it myself. Good to know. I had never heard about a possible starter issue on the PS111, but the Scouts did.
Thank you
Phil

 

[Kitulu]

2017 Chieftain Limited. Built March 2017, I believe. I have extended warranty until 2022. If not, I would just replace it myself. Good to know. I had never heard about a possible starter issue on the PS111, but the Scouts did.
Thank you
Phil

I don't think there was a recall for it, but my service manager told me about it when I was helping out at a Demo Days event, and replaced it when he noticed that mine was starting slow.

 

[masspatriot]

here is the audio,

 

[Jw roadmaster]

That is how my'17 sounded before I had the starter replaced. It started slowly, like a cold weather start. It got progressively worse, ever in warm weather.

 

[high plains rider]

mine sounds a little different.. the starter is not slow... it just doesn't fire right away..

 

[masspatriot]

Appointment made for end of week. Most likely starter to be replaced.

 

[masspatriot]

in the shop now, will update. Decent weather here for a few more days.

 

[masspatriot]

Diagnosed as bad starter, drawing 170-210 amps which is over service spec of 160A. Waiting on part shipment. At least I can still diagnose with some degree of accuracy.

 

[masspatriot]

Still waiting for delivery of new starter. Yikes

 

[Larry S]

Still waiting for delivery of new starter. Yikes

Sorry to hear you have to wait so long, my 14 Chieftain went through 6 batteries in 3 years until they replaced the starter. 2 years later I’m on the same battery and starts like new ! Larry