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So here's my data:
Pursuit Dark Horse Premium Ruby Metallic ordered April 9, was told 12 weeks to ship. Yesterday, I emailed customer service was told early to mid September to ship. That's about 22 to 23 weeks, if it even comes then.
 

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So here's my data:
Pursuit Dark Horse Premium Ruby Metallic ordered April 9, was told 12 weeks to ship. Yesterday, I emailed customer service was told early to mid September to ship. That's about 22 to 23 weeks, if it even comes then.
Not sure if this helps you or not, but the Indian Dealer in Lynnwood, WA I’m pretty sure has that exact model in stock.

 

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The real answer is nobody knows. China has instituted massive factory shutdowns the last 4 months due to covid. Yes, most of the parts holding up these bikes are made in China. When many of you ordered these bikes, the shutdowns were not instituted yet. And along with the massive shipping delays and stalemate parts are sitting in China, and on ships out at sea unable to port and unload.

The times Polaris is giving everyone are best guesses based on the unknown.
 

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The real answer is nobody knows. China has instituted massive factory shutdowns the last 4 months due to covid. Yes, most of the parts holding up these bikes are made in China. When many of you ordered these bikes, the shutdowns were not instituted yet. And along with the massive shipping delays and stalemate parts are sitting in China, and on ships out at sea unable to port and unload.

The times Polaris is giving everyone are best guesses based on the unknown.
I due somewhat agree with what you have said, with the exception of your last sentence!
Best Guess?
Indian's official wed site is still saying 12+ weeks!
I don't believe the majority of bikes ordered today or in the near future will be delivered in 12-15 weeks.
Even if the shutdowns ended today the back log of orders will not permit that time frame!

Would be interesting to know if they are prioritizing higher profit models.
Indian has stated "first come, first served" but I wonder?
 

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I due somewhat agree with what you have said, with the exception of your last sentence!
Best Guess?
Indian's official wed site is still saying 12+ weeks!
I don't believe the majority of bikes ordered today or in the near future will be delivered in 12-15 weeks.
Even if the shutdowns ended today the back log of orders will not permit that time frame!

Would be interesting to know if they are prioritizing higher profit models.
Indian has stated "first come, first served" but I wonder?
Ummm...I don't think that's how this works. Production lines are based upon efficiencies of scale, supply chain management, and profits; not just profit. From my understanding Indian is exactly like other manufacturers who will retool an assembly line for a specific line of bikes and then produce any/all variations of that bike. So your scout bobbers/rouges/ vanilla scouts would be produced all in one batch... then your chiefs... and so on; and they keep this rotation going in order to fulfill all customer needs. If they're actually producing on a first come first served basis across their entire portfolio of bikes... well, they're doing it wrong! Now there may be some crossover between line-ups, such as paint and accessories... but for the most part the above would hold true. Plus I wouldn't want a set of production line workers constantly switching between a Bobber, then a Chief, then a Vintage, then a Rogue etc... that's when mistakes happen. It's all about the GROOOVE baby!

*Any supply chain grads, or business management folks out there that can confirm?

Also of note is that the higher end bikes are EXPENSIVE, and are usually purchased by people with a lot of disposable income, and those customers are usually very discerning clients who want customization; which is a lot of time/money. This is my guess as to why some of the bikes are delayed... if you're asking for a large amount of customizations... you're going to wait. Those of us with cookie cutter bikes that will end up modding on our own, well... we don't have to deal with that wait time as much.

I posted a couple days ago but my Bobber/Black Smoke, was ordered on May 17th, and Indian just confirmed with me the other day that it would be shipped July 10 - July 25th. I even told the guy "don't blow smoke up my arse, I'm not going to get upset, I'm just trying to plan mod purchases, insurance, and storage... give it to me straight". So I'm pretty sure he was being honest with me, and if it takes longer... meh...that's life.

Did both of you Canadians email Indian directly on their website? The issue with the above process that I outline is that if you're "unlucky" enough to catch them at the end of a production line, you'll have to wait for the next production line of that model; this could be the case for both of you. It wouldn't surprise me if you emailed them and they responded with exactly what they told me "July".
 

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I due somewhat agree with what you have said, with the exception of your last sentence!
Best Guess?
Indian's official wed site is still saying 12+ weeks!
I don't believe the majority of bikes ordered today or in the near future will be delivered in 12-15 weeks.
Even if the shutdowns ended today the back log of orders will not permit that time frame!

Would be interesting to know if they are prioritizing higher profit models.
Indian has stated "first come, first served" but I wonder?

12+ means 12 weeks or ?????? could be 2 years

Right now, across the entire Polaris product line, production lines and shifts are based on available parts that week and even day. They make what they have parts for.

If Polaris could get bikes out sooner, they surely would. The delays are killing their earnings and profits. Like everyone else they are at the mercy of the supply chain.

First come first serve means based on parts, if they have enough parts to make the chrome bikes, which no one wants it seems they make them.
 

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I emailed for an update on Wednesday using the applet on the main Indian site, and so far no response. I thought their goal/promise was two business days....not too much time left for today.

They responded right away, but it went into my junk folder. My bad.
 

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Maybe. I think a lot of buyers are going to be leveling off, or even going away if we go into a recession and inflation continues. If the economy really goes into a slump, then this increased demand willl go away real quick.

Very true, my dealership gets a lot of new bikes in Challengers, Pursuits, etc. Most are canceled orders and they go really quick. So I have my eyes peeled for the next one that comes in.
 

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Ummm...I don't think that's how this works. Production lines are based upon efficiencies of scale, supply chain management, and profits; not just profit. From my understanding Indian is exactly like other manufacturers who will retool an assembly line for a specific line of bikes and then produce any/all variations of that bike. So your scout bobbers/rouges/ vanilla scouts would be produced all in one batch... then your chiefs... and so on; and they keep this rotation going in order to fulfill all customer needs. If they're actually producing on a first come first served basis across their entire portfolio of bikes... well, they're doing it wrong! Now there may be some crossover between line-ups, such as paint and accessories... but for the most part the above would hold true. Plus I wouldn't want a set of production line workers constantly switching between a Bobber, then a Chief, then a Vintage, then a Rogue etc... that's when mistakes happen. It's all about the GROOOVE baby!

*Any supply chain grads, or business management folks out there that can confirm?

Also of note is that the higher end bikes are EXPENSIVE, and are usually purchased by people with a lot of disposable income, and those customers are usually very discerning clients who want customization; which is a lot of time/money. This is my guess as to why some of the bikes are delayed... if you're asking for a large amount of customizations... you're going to wait. Those of us with cookie cutter bikes that will end up modding on our own, well... we don't have to deal with that wait time as much.

I posted a couple days ago but my Bobber/Black Smoke, was ordered on May 17th, and Indian just confirmed with me the other day that it would be shipped July 10 - July 25th. I even told the guy "don't blow smoke up my arse, I'm not going to get upset, I'm just trying to plan mod purchases, insurance, and storage... give it to me straight". So I'm pretty sure he was being honest with me, and if it takes longer... meh...that's life.

Did both of you Canadians email Indian directly on their website? The issue with the above process that I outline is that if you're "unlucky" enough to catch them at the end of a production line, you'll have to wait for the next production line of that model; this could be the case for both of you. It wouldn't surprise me if you emailed them and they responded with exactly what they told me "July".
I emailed customer support 2 weeks ago. they inquired what dealership I purchased at. I forwarded that info promptly and never heard from them again.
I agree with you quote of assembly line retooling for different line of bike, was just a generalizing on what Indian wed site was stating.
Wish you the best of luck with the July delivery.
Patiently waiting!!

FYI I ordered Marron metallic smoke. Picking between that and Black smoke was the hardest part for me. lol
 

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I emailed customer support 2 weeks ago. they inquired what dealership I purchased at. I forwarded that info promptly and never heard from them again.
I agree with you quote of assembly line retooling for different line of bike, was just a generalizing on what Indian wed site was stating.
Wish you the best of luck with the July delivery.
Patiently waiting!!

FYI I ordered Marron metallic smoke. Picking between that and Black smoke was the hardest part for me. lol
If it makes you feel better, I think YOU picked the right color; honestly I'm kind of wishing that I'd gone with that maroon smoke, it gives the bike a little more character than just the flat black. I'd go back and change my color if I thought it wouldn't hurt my place in line but with things being the way they are...the black is my "second choice" so, I'll live :) (I'm also a Michigan fan, so Scarlett and Grey = Big NO NO)

If you haven't heard back from them, send them another message...I'm a very courteous and patient person, and sometimes I wonder if "asking" puts me at the back end of the line. However, in your case it already seems that you've waited long enough. Just sayin', maybe ping them again and find out.

Damn, that's a sexy bike...

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If it makes you feel better, I think YOU picked the right color; honestly I'm kind of wishing that I'd gone with that maroon smoke, it gives the bike a little more character than just the flat black. I'd go back and change my color if I thought it wouldn't hurt my place in line but with things being the way they are...the black is my "second choice" so, I'll live :) (I'm also a Michigan fan, so Scarlett and Grey = Big NO NO)

If you haven't heard back from them, send them another message...I'm a very courteous and patient person, and sometimes I wonder if "asking" puts me at the back end of the line. However, in your case it already seems that you've waited long enough. Just sayin', maybe ping them again and find out.

Damn, that's a sexy bike...

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I have already resigned to the fact that I will most likely not be riding till August!
shipping end of June.
Shipping, customs, dealer prep Adds another 1-2 weeks.
Out of Country vacation adds another 2.5 weeks and it’s August.

Michigan fan? From Michigan?
I have visited often! Not recently (Covid)
Short trip to the border from where I live.
FYI wish I was getting black exhaust!
 

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I have already resigned to the fact that I will most likely not be riding till August!
shipping end of June.
Shipping, customs, dealer prep Adds another 1-2 weeks.
Out of Country vacation adds another 2.5 weeks and it’s August.

Michigan fan? From Michigan?
I have visited often! Not recently (Covid)
Short trip to the border from where I live.
FYI wish I was getting black exhaust!
Originally from Ann Arbor yup, father was an M grad, and I grew up about a mile away from the stadium (BigHouse); I didn't get in, had to go to Hopkins instead (lmao). I've been back a few times since my family left in '84, and glad I never stayed, but enjoy the game day atmosphere. Been to quite a few college stadiums actually, and enjoyed each one; UF Florida "The Swamp" is where we left my brother for his college career... that place is also amazing! Never seen that many jorts and daisy dukes in my life... just a riot lol. Also been to UNLV's stadium which is really neat and BYU, and Utah (both fun places).

I remember as a kid (long long time ago), traveling up to Canada... and visiting a theme park; can't remember the name of it. However, what I remember most is how 'clean' Canada was/is! If I could stomach the cold weather I would move up there in a heartbeat, but Vegas spoiled me because it's riding weather year-round; though July and August are brutal... nothing like riding when it's 110 degrees outside and you feel like your shoes are going to melt to the pavement lol.

As far as "black exhaust" goes...order the black heat shields, or just paint it black; someone else on here did Krylon Matte Finish and I think it was darn near a perfect match with the paint that Indian uses; I can picture a whole bunch of Indian employees picking up boxes of Krylon at Home Depot lmao...
 
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