[TC CHAMP]

I just ordered 2023 pursuit. I think I want to go Sawicki ? Is this the best performance? Sound good? Can't find much for upgrading?

Sawicki has very good performance, sounds good, and pretty loud. I know where you can get a mid-pipe used that's for sale if you're interested.

 

[Mojodaddy69]

Thanks for feed back. Really looking for full lenght.

 

[Skidmore111]

Thanks for feed back. Really looking for full lenght.

Graffeo,and Bassani..there are videos on you tube.

 

[Dark Horse Paratrooper]

Whatever you do, don't do a cat delete, it's pointless on the powerplus, and will actually take away power. Everyone that's done it has had issues with this. Tuned or not.

 

[Mojodaddy69]

I have heard the same about cat delete.

 

[Byron Sexton]

Shoot I'd argue against anyone with the new Bosche ecu not to do any cat delete.....

 

[Dieseldoc]

Bassani deletes the cat,in fact the way it's mounted I don't see how any 2-1 exh could use the stock convertor.Besides on my Challenger I've had no ck eng lites or fuelling issues with the Bassani.

 

[Mojodaddy69]

I realize 2 into 1 deletes cat. The cat delete I believe we were discussing is to stay with factory header. Delete cat and put to slip-ons on. Not interested in that. If you buy a pursuit premium you can't install bassani 2 into 1 currently. They are working on one that fits.

 

[HiM]

I realize 2 into 1 deletes cat. The cat delete I believe we were discussing is to stay with factory header. Delete cat and put to slip-ons on. Not interested in that. If you buy a pursuit premium you can't install bassani 2 into 1 currently. They are working on one that fits.

Mojo, what is it about the pursuit premium that prevents the bassani from fitting?

 

[Mojodaddy69]

I called them. They said the FOX shock uses the same mount holes as there current 2 into 1. They have done R &D. They just have not got green light for production of the one that fits.

 

[RACNRAY]

The first mod I did was a set of Bassani slip-ons. On one hot July day down here in SOFLO I got stuck in ALOT of stopngo traffic, the engine temp was fine but I could feel the heat radiating outward from the cat, heating up my ankles, feet and lower part of my calfs. Now most of my driving is not in that kinda traffic I just did not want that heat ever again. So a Tab cat delete went on, never any issues at all. NO loss of power and maybe a bit more at the higher rpm range, NO codes, a bit deeper exhaust tone and certainly got rid of the heat radiating from the cat. I eventually modified the baffles for more exhaust flow and got even better performance as the baffles that came with the Bassani's were just too restrictive.

I had a 2-1 on my Kawi Vaquero and loved it for looks and performance, but for some reason on both of my Indians I prefer the sound and look of two mufflers.

RACNRAY

 

[Lutch]

I got rid of my cat with slip ons10,000 miles ago. I’m now running Sawicki and still no problems. All to their own but I want my Challenger to rival HD and it does when you get rid of the cat.

 

[Baron58]

Pro-Comp 2 to 1 Full Exhaust System - Indian Challenger (toceperformance.com)

 

[RACNRAY]

Looks quite similar to the Graffeo, both with long primaries and proper merge collectors.

But the Toce muffler looks out of place, and the THOUSANDS of mufflers I have seen in 46+ years as a m/c tech, it rates as the ugliest.

 

[Allears]

Pro-Comp 2 to 1 Full Exhaust System - Indian Challenger (toceperformance.com)

Isn’t that Ridingfish’s bike? I think he tested the prototype.

 

[Baron58]

Isn’t that Ridingfish’s bike? I think he tested the prototype.

Looks to be

 

[Dakotaunchained]

I got rid of my cat with slip ons10,000 miles ago. I’m now running Sawicki and still no problems. All to their own but I want my Challenger to rival HD and it does when you get rid of the cat.

are you guys talking about the sawicki shorty cannon or the lloydz sawicki?

 

[Lutch]

I have the Sawicki mid length that is just like the Lloyds. I’m not paying $300 extra for his name and marking on the same exhaust.

 

[Dakotaunchained]

I have the Sawicki mid length that is just like the Lloyds. I’m not paying $300 extra for his name and marking on the same exhaust.

do they still make a mid length? i only see short on their website…or am i looking in the wrong place? is my research correct that for stainless the only options are CMP and sawicki?