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Keep in mind, if you are not a Harley Street Glide or Road Glide fan, you will not be a fan of this bike or the Chieftain/Roadmaster, for that matter .. The Challenger was designed to compete directly with those bikes, period. It is a Harley alternative. Not a BMW, Yamaha, Honda alternative. Those bikes will be sought after regardless of what Harley or Indian come out with. The Challenger is not competing against those guys.

The target market is the person who only wants an American made V-twin with the exhaust note that only these engines can produce. Harley has a culture and so does Indian. Check out the many youtube videos of Indian Rider Groups across the planet. It's growing. But anyway, in the case of the Challenger, if you had one of those Harleys and was looking to replace it with something newer, looking at what Indian offers now will have you thinking twice. The Challenger is better in so many ways. I owned Harleys for years.. Mostly baggers. Came from sportbikes so I always wanted the baggers to perform. All of my Harleys had a bunch of aftermarket performance parts on it.. Your needed to if you wanted it to handle better and go faster. To get a typical Road Glide to perform like the Challenger today, you would need to spend serious dough. The Harleys out of the box sound like crap and run like sh$%@. But I bought them because they were Harleys.

To get them to run and look right, I have invested in front/rear shocks, LED lights, Stage 2 cam upgrades, wrapped front fender, was forced to purchase the clunky wired headset unit in order to get Apple Carplay, installed a larger windshield to cut down on buffeting, and paid royally to have all three oils changed each year. The Challenger already offers these things out of the box. It is also easier to work on and maintain. Don't have to do three oil changes and everything is simple to remove and/or disconnect. So in comparison, I need to spend over $10,000 in upgrades on top of the purchase price in order to have what the Challenger offers out of the box. Don't forget the King of the Baggers race. This is the beginning of something bigger.

Indian has a winner here.. I sincerely hope they can keep this up.
 

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Keep in mind, if you are not a Harley Street Glide or Road Glide fan, you will not be a fan of this bike or the Chieftain/Roadmaster, for that matter .. The Challenger was designed to compete directly with those bikes, period. It is a Harley alternative. Not a BMW, Yamaha, Honda alternative. Those bikes will be sought after regardless of what Harley or Indian come out with. The Challenger is not competing against those guys.

The target market is the person who only wants an American made V-twin with the exhaust note that only these engines can produce. Harley has a culture and so does Indian. Check out the many youtube videos of Indian Rider Groups across the planet. It's growing. But anyway, in the case of the Challenger, if you had one of those Harleys and was looking to replace it with something newer, looking at what Indian offers now will have you thinking twice. The Challenger is better in so many ways. I owned Harleys for years.. Mostly baggers. Came from sportbikes so I always wanted the baggers to perform. All of my Harleys had a bunch of aftermarket performance parts on it.. Your needed to if you wanted it to handle better and go faster. To get a typical Road Glide to perform like the Challenger today, you would need to spend serious dough. The Harleys out of the box sound like crap and run like sh$%@. But I bought them because they were Harleys.

To get them to run and look right, I have invested in front/rear shocks, LED lights, Stage 2 cam upgrades, wrapped front fender, was forced to purchase the clunky wired headset unit in order to get Apple Carplay, installed a larger windshield to cut down on buffeting, and paid royally to have all three oils changed each year. The Challenger already offers these things out of the box. It is also easier to work on and maintain. Don't have to do three oil changes and everything is simple to remove and/or disconnect. So in comparison, I need to spend over $10,000 in upgrades on top of the purchase price in order to have what the Challenger offers out of the box. Don't forget the King of the Baggers race. This is the beginning of something bigger.

Indian has a winner here.. I sincerely hope they can keep this up.
No argument on the quality of the Challenger. Most of us hate the looks of it because it looks like a Harley Davidson. Put the Challenger in a traditional/classic Indian motorcycle setup, and I would be looking at it too. However, I think that it's uglier than a baby born of AOC and a Camel
 

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I believe the traditional/classic Indian motorcycle setup with similar "Challenger" features is not far behind..
 

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If you haven’t ridden one, no point in offering an opinion on anything but the looks. The bike has to be ridden to be truly appreciated. Yes, it’s that good.
I can’t wait to test ride. I’m interested after I sat on a black pearl flake 2021 model. Sat lower than my ‘17 Roadmaster for some reason. Which I liked since I’m short. The owner raves at its power and handling. He came off a HD. He had remote start, said he was impressed w the handling and stability features. The weight won’t bother me since I come off a Roadmaster.
I would like another color option, but that black pearl flake whatever was sharp. The blue limited would be my next choice.
I plan to test ride one in Tallahassee soon
 
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Man that’s a depressing picture. Is that fairing just so perfect that Indian needed to copy HD’s homework? Riding one tomorrow, so I guess I’ll see how well that fairing performs.
And it is an outright SHAME that in that picture, Harley has more of a valanced front fender than the Indian!!! Talk about switching sides. Midget porn is better to view than that stupid Challenger....IMO. don't take it personal 😏
 

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Love the look. Similar in ways then the harley for sure but a superior bike.

Only better looking bike is the indian 1200 but too small for me especially since my girl likes to ride along .
 

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And it is an outright SHAME that in that picture, Harley has more of a valanced front fender than the Indian!!! Talk about switching sides. Midget porn is better to view than that stupid Challenger....IMO. don't take it personal 😏
Don’t worry. I’m not a midget.
 
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This thread is funny... Apparently, according to the posts, The Challenger is the new Victory Vision. Same company, different bikes, same argument. I'm sure the 108" in a fork mounted fairing configuration will be the new popular kid.
 
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