[SlidePicker]

The question is @SlidePicker - if you 'over fill' at some point, you get residual oil up around the air cleaner... do you have that? I get mine to 'barely' (means barely) to touch the bottom knuckle on the dipstick...

I really wish Indian would come out with some sort of real definition on what is a proper check.
I think we all get tired of 'hold the bike this way', or 'when the bike is 165 degrees with a baby zebra crossing the street on leap year' sorts of measurements.

Not to rant at zero-six in the morning... but here's indians' version of how to do it from Youtube...

Enough! It's time to go riding on whats going to be a very pretty Sunday! L8TR G8TRs

@Leather Face I'm quite familiar with that piece and have been since I bought my Springfield in '21. Up until my recent 15K self-service oil change I've had them done at dealerships. I didn't bother checking after it was done, assuming it would be full. I'd check halfway through the oil change interval and find it not reading on the dipstick and assumed it had used that much oil, which I now know to be false. The first time I tried topping it up, I poured in a quart as I would in a car and made a big mess. If I'd RTFM first, I'd have read that a pint does it. Anyway, my true oil consumption was negligible. I have never had oil in my air cleaner, throttle body, or intake manifold. I cannot prove, but reason that i have no oil from my breather because I do not run my engine when the motorcycle is leaning to the left on the side stand. Oil pumped to the head drains down the exhaust pushrod tubes. When it leans to the left, thise drains rise, oil puddles to the left side of the heads, the breather vent in the front valve cover is lower, and it is easier for oil to be blown out. I do not believe the engineers ever thought of that, ir ever tested it that way. Shop mechanics run them stood up straight. When faced with complaints from riders about oil fouled air cleaners, they thought up overfilling as an explanation. I suggest it is from extended warmups with the bike on the side stand. I offer as Exhibit A my Springfield currently running with nearly 7 quarts in the crankcase and a dry intake. I don't run it unless it's standing up.

 

[Leather Face]

Not Indian Larry, Mr. Larry that had the 14 Chieftain and put over 500k miles on it before he hit a deer. Bike still ran great.

Didn't know about Mr. Larry... anytime I hear Larry in the Indian Sphere... I think of Indian Larry!

 

[Leather Face]

@Leather Face I'm quite familiar with that piece and have been since I bought my Springfield in '21. Up until my recent 15K self-service oil change I've had them done at dealerships. I didn't bother checking after it was done, assuming it would be full. I'd check halfway through the oil change interval and find it not reading on the dipstick and assumed it had used that much oil, which I now know to be false. The first time I tried topping it up, I poured in a quart as I would in a car and made a big mess. If I'd RTFM first, I'd have read that a pint does it. Anyway, my true oil consumption was negligible. I have never had oil in my air cleaner, throttle body, or intake manifold. I cannot prove, but reason that i have no oil from my breather because I do not run my engine when the motorcycle is leaning to the left on the side stand. Oil pumped to the head drains down the exhaust pushrod tubes. When it leans to the left, thise drains rise, oil puddles to the left side of the heads, the breather vent in the front valve cover is lower, and it is easier for oil to be blown out. I do not believe the engineers ever thought of that, ir ever tested it that way. Shop mechanics run them stood up straight. When faced with complaints from riders about oil fouled air cleaners, they thought up overfilling as an explanation. I suggest it is from extended warmups with the bike on the side stand. I offer as Exhibit A my Springfield currently running with nearly 7 quarts in the crankcase and a dry intake. I don't run it unless it's standing up.

I hadn't thought about the bike on the side stand @SlidePicker. So you're saying you just get the bike upright and then warm it up? How long do you -in general- warm it up?

 

[SlidePicker]

I hadn't thought about the bike on the side stand @SlidePicker. So you're saying you just get the bike upright and then warm it up? How long do you -in general- warm it up?

Till the mode display goes off and the RPM shows up generally. A little longer if it's really cold. I want it to have the oil returning from the various pressure fed parts of the engine draining back to the crankcase where the oil pump return pickup is sucking it up and pumping it out of the snorkel over the transmission gears. It's got full oil circulation established then. I believe a motorcycle or car is better off warming up while riding off at moderate speed and load than unloaded cold idling.

 

[RagtopFan]

As I've posted, in a 6 qt. TS engine, I refill with 5.5 quarts. Always OEM oil change kits. I did it that identical way on both TS engine, the early 111 I refilled with 5 qts. (oil filter always) Never check again. No oil blowing out of air filter. Maybe be a stupid method, but almost 75000 miles and no issues. And no one else changes my oil, so no risk of stripped threads. Just my .02
As said earlier, once you change the oil with this method you know the baseline.

This is the method I have used with my 2017 RM and have done the same thing with my cars/trucks over the last 48 years....

 

[Leather Face]

Till the mode display goes off and the RPM shows up generally. A little longer if it's really cold. I want it to have the oil returning from the various pressure fed parts of the engine draining back to the crankcase where the oil pump return pickup is sucking it up and pumping it out of the snorkel over the transmission gears. It's got full oil circulation established then. I believe a motorcycle or car is better off warming up while riding off at moderate speed and load than unloaded cold idling.

I'll give that a try. I keep checking the oil - like in the youtube video - AND I keep looking at my air box to see if oil is present. (which it hasn't done that so far...) Thx @SlidePicker

 

[Chief T]

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