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Installation of the AdMore Lighting Premium Light Bar on a 2016 Indian Motorcycle


Ref: AdMore Lighting, LED8020-SB, Premium LED LightBar with Smart Brake Technology, AdMore Programmable SMT Light Bar with Smart Brake - AdMore Lighting Inc.

Bought from: Twisted Throttle, Motorcycle Turn Signals and Tail Lights | TwistedThrottle.com

OEM connectors: Delphi Metri-Pack Series 150, available at http://www.mouser.com , www.cycleterminal.com , Weather Pack | Metri-Pack | Fusible Link Wire | White Products Cleveland Ohio | Terminals Seals Connectors | Automotive Electrical Terminals Seals etc.

The AdMore LED Smart Brake Tech. LED light bar adds a BRIGHT LED assembly to the motorcycle, complete with tail light, brake light and turn signals. It complements the OEM lights with sequential amber turn signal LEDs and an accelerometer that activates its red brake light LEDs as the motorcycle slows down on closed throttle. That is in addition to the standard brake light operation controlled by the brake lever and pedal. There is also a center set of three bright white LEDs that momentarily flashes at the onset of using the brakes, intended to capture the eyes in vehicles behind the motorcycle. If the drivers behind you don’t see you with this thing lighting up, they’re blind!

With the use of a lap top computer and the firmware installed in the unit, the light bar can be configured to suit the owner’s preferences. You decide how bright you want the individual functions. Should the turn signals progressively strobe to the side or just blink like the OEM lamps? Adjust the sensitivity of the accelerometer so the brake light comes on with light deceleration or under more aggressive slowing, or just when you manually go for the brakes. Adjust the modulation of the brake lights or turn that feature off entirely. You can even turn on or off the single LED that is there to illuminate the license plate.

For most motorcyclists, the typical mounting of the light bar would be to use the (included) bracket that would place the light above or below the license plate. I chose to install the light bar just below the Roadmaster’s trunk, where there is a wide, flat, black bar that seems made for the purpose. Mounting the light bar at the license plate would be the simplest and fastest location because all but one required wire needed for its functions is already there. Mounting the light bar below the back of the trunk requires tapping into the wiring below the seat and making up a new additional wiring harness, about 30” long, that runs parallel to the OEM harness under the seat. That doesn’t make the job a lot harder, but definitely adds to the time and hardware needed.

AdMore gives you Posi-Taps ( Posi-Tap- No Crimp Tap ) to “tap” into the OEM wiring and I like them MUCH BETTER than the all-too-common 3M “Scotchlok” tap-connectors. If you mount the light by the license plate, that’s all you’ll need to get the light operating. If you mount it below the trunk, you’ll need connectors at each end of the new under-seat harness that you need to make-up. You can use any good quality multipin connectors for the purpose, like Molex, etc. But I used the same brand connectors that Polaris/Indian uses all over the bike, simply because anything else would offend my delicate sensibilities. For that reason, the info for Delphi Connection Systems connectors is listed above. I used Delphi Metri-Pack, series 150, 2-pin and 5-pin connectors. In the two photos below, you can see the two OEM connectors (with blue & gray ends) that Roadmaster owners will tap into.

The required OEM wires are under the seat, but if you mount the light bar at the license plate, you can tap into four of the required wires right at the tail light. There is a 6-pin connector with gray ends near the right side of the frame which has four of the needed wires. It is at the high-end of the same wire harness that runs down to the tail light. Indian supplied a 2-pin (ground & switched 12-volt positive) connector closer to the left side (blue ends, above the shock absorber) and it was probably intended to power whatever accessories you or your dealer might hook up to the bike. The AdMore lightbar requires a 12-volt positive feed that is “switched” ON when the ignition is powered up. Do NOT use the blue/pink or green/yellow wires in the 6-pin connector for switched 12 volt positive. Tapping into the 2-pin accessory source can be done with a matching Delphi male connector or you can use a Posi-tap on the gray wire, depending on personal preferences and where you’re mounting the light bar. The black wire in both OEM connectors is ground, so the choice is yours as to which ground source goes to the AdMore lightbar. Since I had the 2-pin matching male plug and had to use the 2-pin hot source for power anyway, I used that ground as well. Here is the wiring scheme:

6-pin tail lamp connector:(OEM color--electrical function--LightBar color)

green/yellow--switched 12+ ------tail light & lic. plate (ignition ON)---X (not used)

pink/blue------brake 12+ -----------brake light-------------------------------------to LightBar blue

blue/red--------RH turn sig. 12- ---RH turn signal NEGATIVE pulsed----to LightBar green

blue-------------LH turn sig. 12- ---LH turn signal NEGATIVE pulsed-----to LightBar yellow

black-----------GROUND 12- ------tail light & lic. Plate--------------------X

blue/pink------BOTH turn sig. 12+ ---12+ to BOTH turn signals----X

2-pin AUX. connector:

gray/white----------12+ ign. switched----------------------------------------------to LightBar red

black--------- 12- ground -------------------------------------------------------------to LightBar black


With the light at the license plate, you’ll have to “snake” the 12-volt switched positive down the conduit that runs from the area under the seat, under the rear fender, down to the tail light. Mounting the lightbar below the trunk requires a new harness, about 30” long, with a 5-pin connector at each end, installed parallel to the original harness under the seat.

With all the wiring done and the light bar mounted where you want it, it’s ready to go. If you want to alter any of the functions from their default settings, just download the required software suite from the website and plug the light bar into a lap top computer with the supplied USB cable. My AdMore LED light bar required a new firmware download that sets it up so it works properly with the OEM’s odd turn signal operation. For whatever reason, the factory wired our rear turn signals (front too?) so they have a constant 12-volt positive feed (with the ignition ON) and the negative feed gets pulsed. VERY few motorcycles have their turn signals wired that way. The new firmware makes the Indian wiring a non-issue.

I am VERY impressed with the AdMore light bar. My goal was to do whatever it takes to capture the attention of the cell phone junkies and others who just refuse to make driving their first priority while behind the wheel. I think that this device is probably the BEST method available to get the job done. With the AdMore light, at ALL times the Indian has more rear facing, bright LEDs than ever and when the brake and/or turn signal LEDs fire-up, it’s a virtual “poke in the eye” to the following public. If this doesn’t keep the jerks from running into us, the last resort is going to be a lawyer, after the impact. I hope it never comes to that.

Ride Safe!
 

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Installation of the AdMore Lighting Premium Light Bar on a 2016 Indian Motorcycle


Ref: AdMore Lighting, LED8020-SB, Premium LED LightBar with Smart Brake Technology, AdMore Programmable SMT Light Bar with Smart Brake - AdMore Lighting Inc.

Bought from: Twisted Throttle, Motorcycle Turn Signals and Tail Lights | TwistedThrottle.com

OEM connectors: Delphi Metri-Pack Series 150, available at http://www.mouser.com , www.cycleterminal.com , Weather Pack | Metri-Pack | Fusible Link Wire | White Products Cleveland Ohio | Terminals Seals Connectors | Automotive Electrical Terminals Seals etc.

The AdMore LED Smart Brake Tech. LED light bar adds a BRIGHT LED assembly to the motorcycle, complete with tail light, brake light and turn signals. It complements the OEM lights with sequential amber turn signal LEDs and an accelerometer that activates its red brake light LEDs as the motorcycle slows down on closed throttle. That is in addition to the standard brake light operation controlled by the brake lever and pedal. There is also a center set of three bright white LEDs that momentarily flashes at the onset of using the brakes, intended to capture the eyes in vehicles behind the motorcycle. If the drivers behind you don’t see you with this thing lighting up, they’re blind!

With the use of a lap top computer and the firmware installed in the unit, the light bar can be configured to suit the owner’s preferences. You decide how bright you want the individual functions. Should the turn signals progressively strobe to the side or just blink like the OEM lamps? Adjust the sensitivity of the accelerometer so the brake light comes on with light deceleration or under more aggressive slowing, or just when you manually go for the brakes. Adjust the modulation of the brake lights or turn that feature off entirely. You can even turn on or off the single LED that is there to illuminate the license plate.

For most motorcyclists, the typical mounting of the light bar would be to use the (included) bracket that would place the light above or below the license plate. I chose to install the light bar just below the Roadmaster’s trunk, where is a wide, flat, black bar that seems made for the purpose. Mounting the light bar at the license plate would be the simplest and fastest location because all but one required wire needed for its functions is already there. Mounting the light bar below the back of the trunk requires tapping into the wiring below the seat and making up a new additional wiring harness, about 30” long, that runs parallel to the OEM harness under the seat. That doesn’t make the job a lot harder, but definitely adds to the time and hardware needed.

AdMore gives you Posi-Taps ( Posi-Tap- No Crimp Tap ) to “tap” into the OEM wiring and I like them MUCH BETTER than the all-too-common 3M “Scotchlok” tap-connectors. If you mount the light by the license plate, that’s all you’ll need to get the light operating. If you mount it below the trunk, you’ll need connectors at each end of the new under-seat harness that you need to make-up. You can use any good quality multipin connectors for the purpose, like Molex, etc. But I used the same brand connectors that Polaris/Indian uses all over the bike, simply because anything else would offend my delicate sensibilities. For that reason, the info for Delphi Connection Systems connectors is listed above. I used Delphi Metri-Pack, series 150, 2-pin and 5-pin connectors. In the two photos below, you can see the two OEM connectors (with blue & gray ends) that Roadmaster owners will tap into.

The required OEM wires are under the seat, but if you mount the light bar at the license plate, you can tap into four of the required wires right at the tail light. There is a 6-pin connector with gray ends near the right side of the frame which has four of the needed wires. It is at the high-end of the same wire harness that runs down to the tail light. Indian supplied a 2-pin (ground & switched 12-volt positive) connector closer to the left side (blue ends, above the shock absorber) and it was probably intended to power whatever accessories you or your dealer might hook up to the bike. The AdMore lightbar requires a 12-volt positive feed that is “switched” ON when the ignition is powered up. Do NOT use the blue/pink or green/yellow wires in the 6-pin connector for switched 12 volt positive. Tapping into the 2-pin accessory source can be done with a matching Delphi male connector or you can use a Posi-tap on the gray wire, depending on personal preferences and where you’re mounting the light bar. The black wire in both OEM connectors is ground, so the choice is yours as to which ground source goes to the AdMore lightbar. Since I had the 2-pin matching male plug and had to use the 2-pin hot source for power anyway, I used that ground as well. Here is the wiring scheme:

6-pin tail lamp connector:(OEM color--electrical function--LightBar color)

green/yellow--switched 12+ -------tail light & lic. plate (ignition ON)---X

pink/blue------brake 12+ -----------brake light-------------------------------------to LightBar blue

blue/red--------RH turn sig. 12- ---RH turn signal NEGATIVE pulsed-----to LightBar green

blue-------------LH turn sig. 12- ---LH turn signal NEGATIVE pulsed-----to LightBar yellow

black-----------GROUND 12- ------tail light & lic. Plate----------------X

blue/pink------BOTH turn sig. 12+ ---12+ to BOTH turn signals---X

2-pin AUX. connector:

gray----------12+ ign. switched---------------------------------------------------to LightBar red

black--------- 12- ground ---------------------------------------------------------to LightBar black


With the light at the license plate, you’ll have to “snake” the 12-volt switched positive down the conduit that runs from the area under the seat, under the rear fender, down to the tail light. Mounting the lightbar below the trunk requires a new harness, about 30” long, with a 5-pin connector at each end, parallel to the original harness under the seat.

With all the wiring done and the light bar mounted where you want it, it’s ready to go. If you want to alter any of the functions from their default settings, just download the required software suite from the website and plug the light bar into a lap top computer with the supplied USB cable. My AdMore LED light bar required a new firmware download that sets it up so it works properly with the OEM’s odd turn signal operation. For whatever reason, the factory wired our rear turn signals (front too?) so they have a constant 12-volt positive feed (with the ignition ON) and the negative feed gets pulsed. VERY few motorcycles have their turn signals wired that way. The new firmware makes the Indian wiring a non-issue.

I am VERY impressed with the AdMore light bar. My goal was to do whatever it takes to capture the attention of the cell phone junkies and others who just refuse to make driving their first priority while behind the wheel. I think that this device is probably the BEST method available to get the job done. With the AdMore light, at ALL times the Indian has more rear facing, bright LEDs than ever and when the brake and/or turn signal LEDs fire-up, it’s a virtual “poke in the eye” to the following public. If this doesn’t keep the jerks from running into us, the last resort is going to be a lawyer, after the impact. I hope it never comes to that.

Ride Safe!
Nice job Ken!! Input like this is what makes this forum great. Thanks
 

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Nice job Ken!! Input like this is what makes this forum great. Thanks
Thanks. To tell you the truth, I'm still not sure I did the YouTube thing right. If you can see the video in the first post and the info on the second post, I guess it works.
 

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On my first trip with my RM last year, my brother rode behind me on his Ultra Ltd. he said the only problem was the small turn signals didn't give out enough light. This would solve that! I like it!
 

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Ordered AdMore premium light bar for 2015 Scout. Awaiting arrival. Will update after install. The changes from standard set up to the Indian Bus must be done prior to shipment. Can not be changed thru USB connection. Be sure to specify light bar for an Indian when ordering.
 

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Admore has updated their web site with a link with the installation info. Look near the bottom of AdMore Programmable SMT Light Bar with Smart Brake - AdMore Lighting Inc.
I think that it may be helpful for the Indian braves who want to add a great rear light that'll help keep the cagers from running in to us.
And thanks to the riders who've weighed in and said nice things about the video.
 

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Ordered AdMore premium light bar for 2015 Scout. Awaiting arrival. Will update after install. The changes from standard set up to the Indian Bus must be done prior to shipment. Can not be changed thru USB connection. Be sure to specify light bar for an Indian when ordering.
Waitaminnit, ET... I fail to understand that statement. In fact, I bought the "standard" premium lightbar with smart brake technology. Once the guys at AdMore made-up the new firmware, I downloaded it, installed it to the lightbar with the supplied USB cable and away I went. In fact, because the Indians are a minority of potential sales for the lightbar, typical off-the-shelf lightbars will come with non-indian firmware and Indian riders will need to do just that; download the Indian-specific firmware and install it to the lightbar. The guys at AdMore are very helpful and will walk any non-geeks through the process as needed.
 

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One of the things that I told myself, and my squaw, as a justification for buying my RM was that I was going to "buy a bike set up from the factory for touring that I don't have to add stuff to"...and now I see this thread...:p
 
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One of the things that I told myself, and my squaw, as a justification for buying my RM was that I was going to "buy a bike set up from the factory for touring that I don't have to add stuff to"...and now I see this thread...:p
I understand your plight. Over the years, I've found myself in the same predicament. TRY to buy perfection, but, dammit!, there are things that can be improved upon. Well, for me, the Roadmaster comes closer to perfection than any other motorcycle. But it has NOT come without a PRICE for improvement.
I love it anyway. ;)
 

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Waitaminnit, ET... I fail to understand that statement. In fact, I bought the "standard" premium lightbar with smart brake technology. Once the guys at AdMore made-up the new firmware, I downloaded it, installed it to the lightbar with the supplied USB cable and away I went. In fact, because the Indians are a minority of potential sales for the lightbar, typical off-the-shelf lightbars will come with non-indian firmware and Indian riders will need to do just that; download the Indian-specific firmware and install it to the lightbar. The guys at AdMore are very helpful and will walk any non-geeks through the process as needed.
Just repeating what they told me in an e-mail. Also the download program that I viewed on their website doesn't list the option for converting to the Indian ground switching of the turn signals. Did your downloaded program have that option? When you ordered your AdMore light did you enter your specific year/model on the order form?
 

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Just repeating what they told me in an e-mail. Also the download program that I viewed on their website doesn't list the option for converting to the Indian ground switching of the turn signals. Did your downloaded program have that option? When you ordered your AdMore light did you enter your specific year/model on the order form?
I bought my AdMore Premium Lightbar from Twisted Throttle, at the NYC Motorcycle Show. It was a common, off-the-shelf model, intended for ANY motorcycle, NOT specifically made for the Indian. I'm the guy who found out "the hard way" that Indians have an odd turn signal system that has a constant 12+ feed to the turn signal lamps and a pulsed negative feed to operate them. Upon stumbling on that issue and contacting the gents in Canada, AdMore developed a new firmware to make the lightbar work with the Indians. Dave at AdMore talked me through the simple process of downloading the new Indian-only firmware and installing it to the lightbar. As for model and year of the Indian, as of today, I know of no specific model & year differences. ALL Indians have the same turn signal system so the same firmware will be required for all of them.
 

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I bought my AdMore Premium Lightbar from Twisted Throttle, at the NYC Motorcycle Show. It was a common, off-the-shelf model, intended for ANY motorcycle, NOT specifically made for the Indian. In fact, to date, there were not and are not ANY lightbars made just for the Indians. I'm the guy who found out "the hard way" that Indians have an odd turn signal system that has a constant 12+ feed to the turn signal lamps and a pulsed negative feed to operate them. Upon stumbling on that issue and contacting the gents in Canada, AdMore developed a new firmware to make the lightbar work with the Indians. Dave at AdMore talked me through the simple process of downloading the new Indian-only firmware and installing it to the lightbar. As for model and year of the Indian, as of today, I know of no specific model & year differences. ALL Indians have the same turn signal system so the same firmware will be required for all of them.
In my discussion with AdMore the Indian firmware download wasn't mentioned, only that they would do it before shipping out the unit. That was on 02/25/2017. Hopefully when it arrives it will be modified. If not do you still have the firmware link?
 

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In my discussion with AdMore the Indian firmware download wasn't mentioned, only that they would do it before shipping out the unit. That was on 02/25/2017. Hopefully when it arrives it will be modified. If not do you still have the firmware link?
I spoke with Dave at Admore and he told me that they are shipping lightbars with the Indian firmware if the buyer requests it. So you should be good to go, right out of the box. And if someone were to buy one off the shelf at a local retailer, then that lightbar will probably be a non-Indian model which can still be easily updated with the firmware that Admore will send out.
 

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I just added the kuryakyn led indian brake lights that attach to the fender in between the hard bags, the admore is definitely brighter.
That's good to know, Mike. In fact, I've been considering adding the Kuryakyn lights to my Roadmaster, even after installing the AdMore Lightbar. I do like the looks and they are well integrated to the fender. I figure that any added "poke-in-the-eye" to the cell phone jockeys behind me can't be a bad thing. I'm still pondering it...
 
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