do what the dealer says and ride it until they get it in... the 500mi check is a oil change and checking nuts and bolts... which you can do if you want.. the only thing that they do that you might not be able to is check the engine compression which to me is meh... you might want to check with your dealer also because mine is no appointment saturday's first come first serve... you might have to be in line at 7:00am for a 8:00am opening but you get in
500 Mile Check Up Not Possible for 2 Months
Any suggestions? I have a 2023 Springfield that now has 524 miles. Shop said they are fully booked until August. By then I am ready for the 2,500 mile check up. What do I do?
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well the 500 mi service is also lubing the clutch/front brake levers and side stand, but those could be done late like the inspections and exhaust re-torquing....
The 500 mi engine oil/filter change is the one most shouldn't put off for a thousand miles or more.....
honestly, unless another dealer within a reasonable distance will make an appointment, I'd make the appointment in August, change the oil/filter myself and tell them I changed the oil/filter already when you do bring it in...
The 500 mi engine oil/filter change is the one most shouldn't put off for a thousand miles or more.....
honestly, unless another dealer within a reasonable distance will make an appointment, I'd make the appointment in August, change the oil/filter myself and tell them I changed the oil/filter already when you do bring it in...
This time of year everyone and his brother wants to bring a bike in to get it "ready to ride" for the summer. A lot of people put them away even though our winters average about 45 degrees and we have plenty of 55 degree days here. If everyone would schedule a service in February the dealers wouldn't get slammed in the spring but no matter how many time you suggest it to the guys coming in for t-shirts all winter, it still doesn't happen. Then they are pissed that they can't get in "same day" for a service. Our service dept. is probably 2 weeks out right now and will stay that way for a month or more with the techs working over almost every day to finish what's scheduled.
The 500 mile is important so as to get any residual particles from the break in out. I'm not sure about this one but a rep told us a few years ago that the oil the bike is shipped with is good oil only it has no detergents or friction modifiers. They WANT to see a bit of wear in the first couple hundred miles to "seat" parts and mate surfaces. Not sure that is correct but it did come from one of the factory reps.
Either way, I'd keep a record and receipt of your service for warranty proposes and change it myself. Don't forget to change the filter as well.
The 500 mile is important so as to get any residual particles from the break in out. I'm not sure about this one but a rep told us a few years ago that the oil the bike is shipped with is good oil only it has no detergents or friction modifiers. They WANT to see a bit of wear in the first couple hundred miles to "seat" parts and mate surfaces. Not sure that is correct but it did come from one of the factory reps.
Either way, I'd keep a record and receipt of your service for warranty proposes and change it myself. Don't forget to change the filter as well.
Yeah, we had no winter in Virginia. Understand for future service, but in my case, bike was picked up in May.This time of year everyone and his brother wants to bring a bike in to get it "ready to ride" for the summer. A lot of people put them away even though our winters average about 45 degrees and we have plenty of 55 degree days here. If everyone would schedule a service in February the dealers wouldn't get slammed in the spring but no matter how many time you suggest it to the guys coming in for t-shirts all winter, it still doesn't happen. Then they are pissed that they can't get in "same day" for a service. Our service dept. is probably 2 weeks out right now and will stay that way for a month or more with the techs working over almost every day to finish what's scheduled.
The 500 mile is important so as to get any residual particles from the break in out. I'm not sure about this one but a rep told us a few years ago that the oil the bike is shipped with is good oil only it has no detergents or friction modifiers. They WANT to see a bit of wear in the first couple hundred miles to "seat" parts and mate surfaces. Not sure that is correct but it did come from one of the factory reps.
Either way, I'd keep a record and receipt of your service for warranty proposes and change it myself. Don't forget to change the filter as well.
Indian/Polaris are not the only manufacturer that the speculation is endless as coming with some sort of break-in oil. But manufacturers never really confirm yea, or nay, on that. But that is the nature of the auto/bike industry today.... ...class action lawyers circle like vultures, by the time any information for public release gets past the lawyers and marketing department, it is whittled down to no information at all.......The 500 mile is important so as to get any residual particles from the break in out. I'm not sure about this one but a rep told us a few years ago that the oil the bike is shipped with is good oil only it has no detergents or friction modifiers. They WANT to see a bit of wear in the first couple hundred miles to "seat" parts and mate surfaces. Not sure that is correct but it did come from one of the factory reps....
Look at 4WD car/truck market, try to figure out how the actual equipment work on those vehicles, they basically leave you to believe it does everything through black magic..
But the point is, almost all agree, after first build or rebuild, you need to do an oil change fairly soon, regardless if you use a special oil or not.... ....the Indian O.M. says 500 miles, you really need to do it near 500miles...
... and the advantage of DIY, at 499mi, I took a ride around the block and then did it in my driveway with exactly 500 miles on the odometer.
Picked mine up the end of March, for a deal on the last of the 2022 on the floor to make room more 2023's for the big selling period in May...Yeah, we had no winter in Virginia. Understand for future service, but in my case, bike was picked up in May.
So yes, you're more a victim of timing and not your own failure to plan ahead, but the fact is everything motorcycle picks up and in spring just as riding season starts, you have to wait...
Chalk it up as nature of the motorcycles and bad timing, change the oil/filter yourself, bring it in August for the rest of the 500mi service...
Having spent many years running and servicing machines of all sizes and types, I’ll vouch that there’s a lot to be said/learned by doing your own service and pre-trip inspections. Indian must feel similarly since they’ve posted videos to do exactly that.
Scroll down on the linked pages for video.
Oil Change :
Indian Motorcycle 111/116 Oil Change | Indian Motorcycle
Drive Belt Service:
Scroll down on the linked pages for video.
Oil Change :
Indian Motorcycle 111/116 Oil Change | Indian Motorcycle
Drive Belt Service:
🤨Not to be an ahole. But it's your responsibility. I think a whole lot of us purchased the service plan. I know how much I ride the day I purchased bike I scheduled 500 Mille service.
Hell I'm due for my 2500 mile I think I will be over by 100 but not a big deal but it's my fault not the dealership.
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My bike didn’t come with a crystal ball to predict that. Is that standard on the newer models? 😂
Even if it's not "break in oil" there was a significant difference between my 500 mi oil change and my 2500. The 500 mi oil was much thicker when I emptied. The one idea I read was the oil collects all the assembly lube and that's part of the reason it's replaced so early.
That is true of all engines, as well as assembly lube, there are metal particles from the initial break-in wear. That is why the general practice is to do an early oil change after first build or a rebuild. Some manufacturer's or rebuilders will actually run the engine for 30 minutes on a stand or in the vehicle and change the oil before shipping it out. Many cars don't recommend an early initial break-in oil change, just stick to the normal oil change interval from the beginning. I suspect those manufacturers have either done a 30 minute run of the engine and initial oil change, or the design and manufacturing is such there no appreciable initial break-in wear...Even if it's not "break in oil" there was a significant difference between my 500 mi oil change and my 2500. The 500 mi oil was much thicker when I emptied. The one idea I read was the oil collects all the assembly lube and that's part of the reason it's replaced so early.
So I am also skeptical a dealer saying we can't get to you for 2 more months, you can continue to ride and we'll just do it late, yeah even 2000 miles late, no big deal....
2 months late, no big deal for most things
2000 miles late, hmmm, for most things probably not, inspections, lubing handlebar levers and the side stand, even re-torquing exhaust connectors, probably not a big deal...
2000 miles late for that initial 500 mi oil change, yeah big deal, IMO...
Would they be willing to give you the oil and filter to do it yourself since you paid for the maintenance package? They would still be a bit ahead by no labor on their end doing it.I have no issues changing the oil if that is recommended since the shop is unable to do the check up. A little pissed that I bought the maintenance package, and expect the shop to take care of me since I bought the bike from them.
I scheduled my 500 immediately, just guessing how long it would take me to hit it. Figured they’d be slammed if I waited.
Though them telling you they’re that far out seems a bit suspect.
It can't hurt to ask, but I suspect most dealers or business is not going to hand over supplies even if they should be installing them but are too booked-up to do it. Liability, bottom line, documentation they failed to meet obligations, etc, etc.....
We have a fellow Indian Scout rider going to bring his bike into the shop next week for an oil change, we told him where he could go buy the Victory 10w60 oil for $13.99 a quart, and then go,to NAPA to buy a good oil filter to bring in when he gets here. That will save him about $30 off the Indian oil change kit, and the Victory oil is full synthetic.
Kinda curious to see if it’s one of the members here on the forum, lol.
Charlie
Kinda curious to see if it’s one of the members here on the forum, lol.
Charlie
I’d tell the dealer give you a free oil change kit and do it yourself. Then they can throw in the free next service
500 miles? That’s two days of riding. I made my appointment the day I bought it for the next weekend.🤣
The dealer gets real agreeable after you hand him a check for $25K.😉
The dealer gets real agreeable after you hand him a check for $25K.😉
The 2022 Scout O.M. says to use 15W60We have a fellow Indian Scout rider going to bring his bike into the shop next week for an oil change, we told him where he could go buy the Victory 10w60 oil for $13.99 a quart, and then go,to NAPA to buy a good oil filter to bring in when he gets here. That will save him about $30 off the Indian oil change kit, and the Victory oil is full synthetic.
Kinda curious to see if it’s one of the members here on the forum, lol.
Charlie
NAPA Gold and Silver Oil Filters are usually Wix, personally I ordered my Wix 51358XP from RockAuto
Motor Oil I used was AMSOIL 15W-60 Synthetic V-Twin Motorcycle Oil at $14.79 a quart.
AMSOIL literature states, "Developed by AMSOIL for use in Victory * and Indian* Motorcycles ".
Rick, the Victory oil is just fine. It’s used in the Octane, and may be 15w60. I didn’t run out to the garage, and check the label. And yes, WIX filters are the best, that’s why I get them from NAPA. The Victory oil is really good, and that’s a good buy on the AMSOIL, too. Oh, and I didn’t pay shipping when I got it from the local dealer.The 2022 Scout O.M. says to use 15W60
NAPA Gold and Silver Oil Filters are usually Wix, personally I ordered my Wix 51358XP from RockAuto
Motor Oil I used was AMSOIL 15W-60 Synthetic V-Twin Motorcycle Oil at $14.79 a quart.
AMSOIL literature states, "Developed by AMSOIL for use in Victory * and Indian* Motorcycles ".
Charlie
Rick, the Victory oil is just fine. It’s used in the Octane, and may be 15w60. I didn’t run out to the garage, and check the label. And yes, WIX filters are the best, that’s why I get them from NAPA. The Victory oil is really good, and that’s a good buy on the AMSOIL, too. Oh, and I didn’t pay shipping when I got it from the local dealer.
Charlie
Here is the Victory oil, it’s only $13.99 local pickup at the Honda East dealer, who own the Indian dealer next door, lol.Rick, the Victory oil is just fine. It’s used in the Octane, and may be 15w60. I didn’t run out to the garage, and check the label. And yes, WIX filters are the best, that’s why I get them from NAPA. The Victory oil is really good, and that’s a good buy on the AMSOIL, too. Oh, and I didn’t pay shipping when I got it from the local dealer.
Charlie
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