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Just ran across a CL add out of Dayton, OH for a 2003 Chief Vintage with engine plate showing #298. Seller claims that all engine #s 300 and above are S&S motors. I've never heard of any such thing?!
 

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Total BS. In reality, the way Gilroy built those motors with the sad tolerances they should have stuck with S&S. Only the 99 - 01's were S&S.
 

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Indian Chief 2002

Indian Chief 2002
MOTORCYCLES

Mike Hanlon

June 4th, 2004


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Indian motorcycle's new flagship - the 2002 Chief - has been redesigned from the ground up with a Powerplus 100- cubic inch Indian engine V-Twin engine and an improved chassis design delivering 60 percent more rigidity for improved handling among the new features. The unmistakable Indian Chief full-body profile remains - sculpted, full-valance fenders and an all-new teardrop fuel tank are complemented by the new and dash design and large uncluttered speedometer. Joining the Chief in 2002 are the Chief Deluxe and Chief Roadmaster. Both models are based on the same platform as the Chief but offer Indian enthusiasts a wider range of styling options.








Key features for 2002 include:
' New 100 cubic-inch Indian PowerplusTM 100 V-Twin engine,
' New chassis design with 60 percent more rigidity for improved handling,
' New cantilever swingarm and rising-rate rear shock configuration for smoother ride and more precise handling,
' New ergonomically-designed, hand-stitched seat for added comfort and reduced fatigue,
' Reinforced rear structure for added passenger comfort and durability,
' Larger 5.8-gallon fuel tank for increased range
' Larger speedometer with digital odometer for increased visibility.

The heart of the Chief is the Powerplus 100 cubic-inch (1638cc) 45-degree, V-Twin engine designed and developed by Indian. Distinctive and unique to Indian, the serrated appearance of the polished rocker boxes and the black, rounded cylinders pay tribute to Indian's past. This combination gives the engine a strong, unique profile, while the rounded cylinders increase the area of the cooling fins for improved air circulation and engine cooling.


The engine is fed by a 42mm, Mikuni "flat-slide" carburetor that is mounted on the left side of the engine, which is unique to early Indian motorcycles. This carburetion package delivers smooth throttle response throughout the entire RPM range. To ensure optimum lubrication and scavenging, the motor features a gerotor oil pump system. The Chief's drivetrain features a constant-mesh, five-speed transmission, primary chain drive and rear belt drive.

The Indian Chief is a road machine in every detail, featuring an all-new chassis design and swingarm configuration delivering 60 percent more rigidity while reducing overall weight by 14 percent. This robust chassis features a reinforced, large diameter backbone and all-new KW rising rate, single-shock rear suspension with adjustable preload. Confidence inspiring handling and a full inch more rear travel combine to provide a comfortable ride in many different road conditions.

Up front, the Chief features 41mm hydraulic, dual-damping front forks. The rake angle has been decreased from 36 degrees to 34 providing more responsive handling. Adding to the comfortable ride of the Chief are wide MT/90-16 tires mounted on 60-spoke chrome wheels. Brembo 4-piston brakes front and rear complete the package.

Indian Chief
The Indian Chief comes with a hand-stitched solo seat and Michelin blackwall tires. The 2002 Chief is offered in three monochromatic color schemes: Black, Red Metallic or Silver. Manufacturer's suggested retail price is $20,495 (U.S.).

Indian Chief Deluxe
The Indian Chief Deluxe comes with a two-up, hand-stitched seat with fringe and whitewall tires. The 2002 Chief Deluxe is offered with gold or charcoal fender graphics and in six two-tone color combinations: Black/Red Metallic, Black/Cream, Crimson/Cream, Copper/Black, Blue Metallic/Silver or Black/Silver. Manufacturer's suggested retail price is $21,795 (U.S.).

Indian Chief Roadmaster
The Indian Chief Roadmaster comes with a two-up, hand-stitched seat with fringe and saddlebags emblazoned with the Roadmaster logo. For long-distance comfort, the Chief Roadmaster features an integrated windshield and a passenger back support. Like the Chief Deluxe, the 2002 Chief Roadmaster comes with whitewall tires, gold or charcoal fender graphics and is offered in six two-tone color combinations:: Black/Red Metallic, Black/Cream, Crimson/Cream, Copper/Black, Blue Metallic/Silver or Black/Silver. Manufacturer's suggested retail price is $22,995 (U.S.).
 

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Thx ... Good usefull info. I have a 2003 R/M and I'd never heard of any suck thing. He also said the bike has been sitting on a concrete barn or garage floor for the last 15 years and they got it to fire up once last year. Tires are dry rotted so he can let anyone test ride it, and it needs a bath. All for only $14,000.00 !!! Poor guy most likely got hustled for about 11 grand and told he could do a fast flip for 14, huh?!
 

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Thx ... Good usefull info. I have a 2003 R/M and I'd never heard of any suck thing. He also said the bike has been sitting on a concrete barn or garage floor for the last 15 years and they got it to fire up once last year. Tires are dry rotted so h9e can let anyone test ride it, and it needs a bath. All for only $14,000.00 !!! Poor guy most likely got hustled for about 11 grand and told he could do a fast flip for 14, huh?!
I also have an 03 R/M, what's your color? If it's been sitting for 15 years, there will be way more work than just putting tires on it and riding off into the sunset.
 

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I also have an 03 R/M, what's your color? If it's been sitting for 15 years, there will be way more work than just putting tires on it and riding off into the sunset.
lol ... No 15 years. Mine is the darker red over cream, basically all stock with a Hooker tuned muffler. That was a new one on me!
 

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lol ... No 15 years. Mine is the darker red over cream, basically all stock with a Hooker tuned muffler. That was a new one on me!
That's a cool color. Mine is metallic copper over jet black. It has several options for the time. I had the engine built by Blackhawk a couple of months ago. Apparently I did that just in time to prevent catastrophic failure.
 

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That's a cool color. Mine is jet black over metallic copper. It has several options for the time. I had the engine built by Blackhawk a couple of months ago. Apparently I did that just in time to prevent catastrophic failure.
Your's is also a unique color combo. I like the way the tank logo looks against the black.
 

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lol ... No 15 years. Mine is the darker red over cream, basically all stock with a Hooker tuned muffler. That was a new one on me!
That color was called Crimson and Cream. Just saying.
 

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Total BS. In reality, the way Gilroy built those motors with the sad tolerances they should have stuck with S&S. Only the 99 - 01's were S&S.
Apparently you don't recall the mandate for them to develop there own engine, aging just saying.
 

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Select a 2003 Indian Chief Roadmaster Trade In Value & Retail Pricing | Kelley Blue Book

$10,320 In Good Condition with typical mileage When purchasing from a dealer

Typical Listing Price assumes that the unit has been fully conditioned and is in good condition or better. Mileage/condition and additional equipment may have a substantial impact on the value shown. Additional options added are assumed to be in good condition and in working order.

Now take off for new tires as well as other dry rot and engine work. More likely he could get around the trade in value

$7,280 In Good Condition with typical mileage When trading in at a dealership

Trade-in values are based on clean units in good condition, with all original standard equipment. Condition and additional equipment may have a substantial impact on the value shown above. Additional options added are assumed to be in good condition and in working order.
Kelley Blue Book does not provide a dollar figure to add or deduct based on mileage for motorcycles. A motorcycle’s condition is far more important than its number of miles driven, since factors like riding style and road conditions will have a far greater impact on a value than the actual mileage.
 

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Apparently you don't recall the mandate for them to develop there own engine, aging just saying.
Not true, I do recall the requirement for them to build their own engines. However, with the shoddy tolerances they used they would have been better off getting an extension and staying with the S&S for another year or two. Warranting that motor was one of the big causes of their demise. Since you have no idea of what I remember, what's your point?
 

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My whole point was "just saying" to end a reply apparently pi$$e$ people off. Judging by your last response, your not exempt from my point.
 
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