Alright, I've been reading thru the forum on apes for the Springfield and it seems everyone who's gone that way has gone right to the 16". I just went to the dealer to check them out and they're a bit too tall for me. I'm just about 6' and I want to keep my hands just at or below my shoulders so...

touring bars 4 in taller than stock....... bout time... to bad they are on supply chain delay