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I’m going be changing my tires this winter, thinking it’s a good idea to change the TPMS sensors. 2019 RM with the original sensors! I went back to look for the old threads that had part numbers for the cheap Chinese replacement versions and the GM program tool! I’m confused about what’s what with this!!! Seems you can’t get cheap replacements anymore? Did they make a change? Do I need to bite the bullet and pay the ridiculous 139.99 ea? Can I program it myself or do I have to use and pay the dealer?
 
I’m going to loop @Dean E in on this, I seem to recall he ordered some of the inexpensive Schrader sensors within the last year and had some issues.

Also, I’ve read posts where guys bought the Schrader sensors (model # 2412417) from AliExpress (or a similar site) and found they didn’t work. Apparently this model number isn’t specific to IM bikes. Also, some ordered sensors listed for BMWs, only to find they didn’t work either.

You can buy the TPMS programing tool on Amazon, but you may be stuck buying the sensors from IM or a site like Indian Parts Nation. In an abundance of caution, you may want to activate the sensor with the learning tool before mounting the tire to ensure the sensor isn't bad. You’d hate to discover a bad sensor after everything is mounted and installed.


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I remember seeing an article on TPM sensors, the battery in them only last 5 years, so I have a note in my owners manual in 2027 when changing tires to have them replaced. No sense having to pay for the labor twice on my Challenger.
 
I fixed mine by placing a small piece of electrical tape over the idiot light so I don't have to look at it.Mine has been on since I got this bike brand new in Feb 2018, and both,myself and the Stealership tried to reset it,and I even replaced it,but no soap. So it can stay on.IMO,they're more trouble then they're worth,not to mention expensive.I've been riding two wheelers for close to 70 years and never had a TPMS on any of those bikes.So,do I need it now?? Absolutely NOT!!! The wifes' car has got the same problem and I did the same thing so we don't have to look at it.IMO,the TPMS system is more of a PIA then anything else!!
 
@Davetac1 has a good point…..bikers have gotten by without TPMS for years. That said, I like the TPMS output as an early warning device in the event I have a slow leak. I‘ve replaced the TPMS on both the front and rear tires on my 2015 RM. The batteries did not come close to lasting 7 years in either case. I see no reason to pay the money or go through the work myself to remove a tire simply to replace a failed TPMS unit. When the TPMS units fail on my bike I replace them when it’s time to replace the tire. I also wouldn’t recommend replacing the TPMS until they fail.
 
TPMS is a good feature,[no question about it] that is,until it shits the bed.Then it becomes a real PIA to trouble shoot and or repair,not to mention, costly.So thank you,but no thank you.I've been running two wheelers now for close to 70 consecutive years and never had TPMS and don't need it now.Why?? Cause experience has taught me to feel the difference in the bikes' handling should a tire start to go down,which has happened a few times over those years. (y)But the bad or good news is [depending on how ya look at it,lol] I'M STILL HERE !!! (y):whistle: SO!!! Doesn't that give ya a shudder of excitement to know that??? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
One day years ago on my Chieftain I felt something a little weird goin down the road, not a known good road as it has lotsa sugarcane and citrus truck traffic and some nice (for me at least) very high speed sweepers. To be sure I toggled into the t/p mode and saw ZERO in the front tire! YIKES!
Good thing there have been a couple of times where the tpms on my skoots and my truck alerted me to low pressure.
 
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If and or when something feels funny or different when riding,[especially when mounted on a two wheeler] an alarm should immediately go off in your head telling you that something isn't right and needs to be checked "immediately".Now if that were to happen to me,which it has,ya don;t think for one minute that I'd wanna make the wife happy now,DO YA??? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: , :whistle::rolleyes:
 
After all my years of riding I figured TPMS was a fancy "bell and whistle" feature that wasn't really all that useful. Then last June I had it alert me to a low tire situation before I was able to feel it. I was able to pull over safely rather than discovering things the hard way at 70 mph.

Maybe had there been no TPMS system on the bike I would have been just fine riding out the flat? I'll never know, but I'm thankful I didn't have to find out whether or not the flat tire would have taken me down.
 
Aren't the TMP sensor's located in the tire powered by a lithium battery? If so like all batteries they eventually die and need to be replaced after several years'?
 
I replaced the sensor in my bike with a brand new one,and guess what?? It STILL didn't work !! And I used my tool to flash it as did the Dealership with theirs' ,and neither one worked.So do you think for one minute I'm gonna waste any more money or time fartin around with this TPMS thing?? The answer is no.And then,I got the same problem with the wifes' car too and there was nothing wrong with the tire or its' pressure. So like I said,after riding for the years I've been riding,I know when something doesn't feel right.
 
I’m going to loop @Dean E in on this, I seem to recall he ordered some of the inexpensive Schrader sensors within the last year and had some issues.

Also, I’ve read posts where guys bought the Schrader sensors (model # 2412417) from AliExpress (or a similar site) and found they didn’t work. Apparently this model number isn’t specific to IM bikes. Also, some ordered sensors listed for BMWs, only to find they didn’t work either.

You can buy the TPMS programing tool on Amazon, but you may be stuck buying the sensors from IM or a site like Indian Parts Nation. In an abundance of caution, you may want to activate the sensor with the learning tool before mounting the tire to ensure the sensor isn't bad. You’d hate to discover a bad sensor after everything is mounted and installed.


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Sorry it has taken me a bit to get back. @TigerGA is correct in his statement. The Schrader sensors (model # 2412417) from AliExpress are the genuine sensor but the problem is these need to be labeled for Indian Motorcycles. I ordered the first time from Aliexpress.com and got two sensors from them. About $23 a piece from them. The both learned correctly with the learning tool that was shown by @TigerGA. The last time I ordered these sensors for Aliexpress I ordered 6 of them. About $35 each this time. When they showed up I tested each one learning it to my bike. 3 worked and 3 did not. I posted here about that and found out that there are two different codes for these sensores like others have stated here. One works for BMW bikes and the other for Indian. I ended up getting credited for the 3 bad sensors but I had to make a video showing what sensors worked and which ones were duds and send to their customer service before I could get my money back. Even if I did not get my money back they were still almost half the price of what Indian wanted. Yes there certainly is some risk in taking this route. The big take away was whomever you get these from the sensors have to be labeled for Indian Motorcycles. There are some of these on Ebay but everything is listed as preowned. Not sure I would go that route. Dean
 
Aren't the TMP sensor's located in the tire powered by a lithium battery? If so like all batteries they eventually die and need to be replaced after several years'?
I actually removed the potting compound on a bad sensor and there is a 2032 battery behind the compound. The problem is there is some sort of spot weld that is on the contact surfaces so you will end up destroying them just trying to get the battery out. Dean
 
I fixed mine by placing a small piece of electrical tape over the idiot light so I don't have to look at it.Mine has been on since I got this bike brand new in Feb 2018, and both,myself and the Stealership tried to reset it,and I even replaced it,but no soap. So it can stay on.IMO,they're more trouble then they're worth,not to mention expensive.I've been riding two wheelers for close to 70 years and never had a TPMS on any of those bikes.So,do I need it now?? Absolutely NOT!!! The wifes' car has got the same problem and I did the same thing so we don't have to look at it.IMO,the TPMS system is more of a PIA then anything else!!
If both sensors are bad, replacing only one will not work. The VCU has to be able to connect to both sensors or it will not finish the programming cycle. I found this out the hard way when I replaced the front sensor when I had the front tire changed, figuring that I would replace the rear sensor whenever I had the rear tire changed.
 
My front sensor is fine and actually still works after 6 years and 81,000 miles traveled.It's the rear sensor that shit the bed and the replacement I got for it would not work.In fact,I had purchased two of em and neither one worked.So, due to the price of these sensors and the aggravation to change em,they can keep em.I've been mounted on two wheelers for close to 70 years and never had TPMS on any of em and never had a problem with a tire going down because I can feel the difference if and or when a tire is going down.So I stand by my decision to not replace these sensors when they go south.Now I'm not saying that they're not a good idea,but what I am saying is they are NOT worth the aggravation they can put you thru trying to restore the TPMS on any vehicle.Ca pishe??? Dave!!!
 
If both sensors are bad, replacing only one will not work. The VCU has to be able to connect to both sensors or it will not finish the programming cycle. I found this out the hard way when I replaced the front sensor when I had the front tire changed, figuring that I would replace the rear sensor whenever I had the rear tire changed.
When the sensor on my front wheel failed, I could still see the reading from the rear tire. Assuming what you stated above is correct (the VCU has to connect to both sensors) one would think that when one sensor dies, the readout from the other would fail to send.

EDIT: After reviewing your post again, it appears both of your sensors were bad at the same time and you initially only replaced the front sensor. Correct?
 
I fixed mine by placing a small piece of electrical tape over the idiot light so I don't have to look at it.Mine has been on since I got this bike brand new in Feb 2018, and both,myself and the Stealership tried to reset it,and I even replaced it,but no soap. So it can stay on.IMO,they're more trouble then they're worth,not to mention expensive.I've been riding two wheelers for close to 70 years and never had a TPMS on any of those bikes.So,do I need it now?? Absolutely NOT!!! The wifes' car has got the same problem and I did the same thing so we don't have to look at it.IMO,the TPMS system is more of a PIA then anything else!!
You can cancel the tpms feature altogether so the light won't come on.
 
When the sensor on my front wheel failed, I could still see the reading from the rear tire. Assuming what you stated above is correct (the VCU has to connect to both sensors) one would think that when one sensor dies, the readout from the other would fail to send.

EDIT: After reviewing your post again, it appears both of your sensors were bad at the same time and you initially only replaced the front sensor. Correct?
I'll jump in. If both sensors are bad you can not get by with changing only one. The relearn process has to learn both front and rear sensors to complete the process. Clear? Dean
 
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