The Austin, Texas VA Clinic almost did me in today

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  1. Masta Kink

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    I go to the VA hospital in Martinsburg, WV. Everyone from the doctors to the greeter at the front door have been great. I guess I'm fortunate or just plain
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    No 2 VA hospitals are the same unfortunately.
     
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    Some 20 year retiree vets tell me that they have to pay a deductible at the VA. Yes ?
     
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    There is obviously no comparison between the quality of care you receive at the VA and that at a private (i.e. corporate) hospital. I've been admitted to the hospital twice in the last five months, once in a private facility and once in the VA. Night and day difference.

    But we're not comparing apples to oranges here. First of all, the private facility is in business to make money, pure and simple. Sure, all of them say that they put the quality of care for their patients first, but the real first is a profit. Otherwise, people start losing their jobs. The VA is in the business of taking care of all us vets, and that number just continues growing without any corresponding increases in the kind of budget necessary to increase the quality of care that is desperately needed.

    And speaking of all us vets, I am always blown away by how busy the VA Hospital is here in Dallas. I've never been in a medical facility that sees as many people in one day. And the number of vets using the VA for medical care seems to be increasing because the cost of Obamacare isn't as cheap as they promised all of us. Can you imagine what your local doctor's office or hospital would be like if they started seeing as many patients?

    Lastly, while I'm not a huge fan of the VA, I'm really thankful I have them. I have medical care, and don't pay much for it. Sure, mistakes happen. But mistakes happen EVERYWHERE. That's why doctor bills are so high - the cost of malpractice insurance is astronomical. I only served eight years, and now I have medical care available to me. Yes, I'm very thankful.
     
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  5. SgtAl

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    Yeah, the last time I went to the VA I had to bay a deductible on office visits, ER, and my prescriptions. If I remember correctly it's based on your income and you don't pay on a service connected disability. On the plus side being VA eligible meets the requirements for the Affordable Care Act so if you don't have any other insurance you don't pay the penalty.
     
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  6. Jose'

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    Spent 8 weeks in Wilford Hall at Lackland in 1964 swore if I lived never touch me again. 72 years old and have no intention to use them, Be cheaper for sure but know too much brothers use VA. Always going back waiting months to get appt. Not for me. Good luck my friend
     
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    Sorry but your experience is yours. I have been using VA medical care since 2000. I personally have worked in medical care since 1986. Good & bad happen in all hospitals. The VA must pass JACHO medical standards as all medical hospitals in America. I have been a chief of five medical clinics in the Dallas VA & worked directly for the director as the system redesign coordinator looking into the problems they have. As in all hospitals they make mistake, people die from them. Vet deserve the best care possible, but as a government ran department it can suck. Handicapped by many crappie political issues.

    My negative story. I was diagnosed with liver cancer one week later found out lab results were switched at my Dallas VA. Mad at the VA? Cried about it? NO! I went in, worked with the staff to found out what happened, hopefully fixed it.

    My good story is my neck was bothering me from a military accident in the desert, went in for exam, doctor looking at my scar tissue notice odd mass, called for MRI , found cancer in my thyroid, two weeks later removed cancer, was told (I reviewed my own exams & I confirmed) that it was 1mm from the edge if it had escaped it would have spread through out the body.
    Make your complaint (that is important), move on to the outside, make room for other vets, your story is an important one. All vets should be aware & keep their VA in check. Blind trust of medical care is only given by a fool. Love my VA, but always do my research. Thanks for your input, happy trails.
     
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    From 2000-2011 never paid a deductible, 2012 I got my service connection completed & still don't. The VA still charges my private insurance, but I pay nothing. I am not a retired military member. If you are a vet talk to your local VA, never totally trust the advice or information of others. Your experience could be different.
     
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    First of all, I appreciate this forum for being open to different discussions not entirely related to Indian motorcycles. We all obviously own one or are getting one and many face the same issues as citizens of this great nation. With that said, I was under the impression that retirees do not pay a deductible regardless of income. My experiences with the VA are helping people get claims and working with Stolen Valor years back to identify posers and fakers who abuse the system.
    It seems that the individual clinics or hospitals are run a little differently...........some 'tighter' than the others. The VA has done a lot of good for many and literally overdosed and killed others. I know of one person, a retiree, who had an operation on his stomach for some reason and some gauze was left inside and then the fireworks began with infections, another operation, and a lot of bad stuff. While on the other hand I have been stitched up and got things handled very nicely. I have seen fights in the labs, seen people beat on others for having a service dog with them, and seen the VA police escorting someone to the basement lock - up of James Haley in Tampa for claiming to be Jesus and cutting in line. The desk person said very loudly to the audience that 'I did not know that Jesus was born in 1964' and then it went psycho with the VA cops doing a Battle Royale with this guy and plenty of laughs. But lets face it, we see this more in civilian large hospitals.
    The VA's problems is with the drugs they dispense. Just generic stuff and the newer meds are years off. They still prescribe tons of sulfa and other stuff thats very cheap.
    The VA is busy now with the last two wars ( or three ) after VN with National Guard and reservists doing multiple tours overseas which was unheard of in VN although a handful did go but generally rear units and did 10 months and back home for good. Plus the addition of women added more physicians and other women related health care people.
    What we are talking about just scratches the surface here. Behind the scenes the VA disability raters are like Indian dealers. Not all on same page. Even remotely. People with General Discharges and Bad Conduct discharges getting immediate disability ratings for cuts and scrapes while some amputees wait for a 30% rating and then the military still wants them in ! One of my FL neighbors was a helocrewman who was in a horrific crash in Afghanistan where the Apache pilot got vertigo and smashed upside down killking the Australian SAS squad they picked up as well as 2 other crewmen. My neighbor was blown out of the airfraft and received burns and two broken legs that took 8 operations and 2 years inside a VA and then they told him he had to finish out his time at friggen Ft Campbell KY. So off he went with crutches and pain pills and the finally said OK, let him go. I have seen shower cuts on a nail in Iraq resulting in 100% disability. Thats the problem. When I got out the raters were all 2nd or 3rd year drop out med students that got on with the VA and the threats started with 'you are not an American if you get disability, ect' and said all I could get was 10% because they would take it away from me if I got more in one year. We had a class action lawsuit that was settled in the early 90's and all of us got 100% back paid to our discharge date and I have not taken one dime from them yet.............mine goes to Paralyzed Veterans, Humane Society, DAV, or American Cancer Society and these are rotated every two years. I never seen anything and do not need it, thank God. I do get zero deduct drugs and care.
    So fellow veterans.............just play the game. Just like you all did in the real military. Learn who can get one this or that and then go with them. Yes I know it can be a hassle but I know of no other way to do it. If you have serious stuff going on like thyroid cancer or some other bad stuff.............put your caution light on here. And do not wait a full day for eye tests and measuring for reading glasses when you can go to WalMart and get the same thing in 5 minutes for under $10.
     
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  10. Ken1553

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    I also have some reservations about the care I've received at times , but you've summed it up very well
     
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