Polaris closes Victory!

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  1. HINK

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    Damn!! Julie LOVES her CCT. She is brand-loyal to the bone -- strongly prefers Victory over Indian. Looks like she may not have that option -- her Victory may just be a collectors item. On the other hand, it's bulletproof and she may easily be able to keep it for another 55k mi with no issues. They're great bikes.
     
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    If the Victory Magnum X-1 had the Thunder Stroke engine I would have bought one. Victory engines look like sh*t.
     
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    The big question for us: if Polaris is cutting Victory, will Indian be next??
     
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    Read the press release.. Sounds like the opposite to me with an increased focus on the Indian brand. Of course anything can happen in the future, but I think Indian is safe.
     
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    I am sorry to see Victory go.

    Victory bikes, with their 106 engine, fit in between the Indian Scout and the 111 models. There is a big gap between the 560# Scouts and the 760+# other Indian models. Victory bikes are in the mid 600 lb range.

    I think it would be smart for Indian to fill that gap, with an Indian branded model using the 106 engine, weighing in the mid 600 lb range. Parts and tech from the Victory models could be used....and that would be smart.
     
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    As a Victory owner, this is a little sad to say the least. There is a lot of teeth gnashing going on at the Victory boards I follow right now. As many have said, I have a feeling that most Vic owners will keep their bikes until they are dead, and then likely switch to H-D over Indian. Victory riders rarely go from Vic to any of the Japanese brands, and don't really care for the styling of the Indian. Not to say that H-D trips their trigger, but they are more worried about US built bikes than just about anything else.

    It will be interesting to see what happens in the future. There was a lot of development going on for the Vic brand, and it wouldn't shock me to see some of that filter over to Indian.

    I can't help but think PII shot themselves in the foot on this one, given that development stopped in 2010 on the big bikes and sales, surprisingly, stopped growing. Pretty easy to make the case that a stale image helped lead to this decision.
     
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    Also from the slides:
    • Polaris will assess opportunity for certain Victory only dealers to become Indian Motorcycle dealers
    • Indian distribution anticipated to increase ~11⁄2 times over the next 3 to 5 years (currently ~350 Indian dealers globally)
    So they are definitely planning on growth in the Indian brand.
     
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    While that is possible, I am not sure they could take the 106 and put it in an Indian. Victory people wouldn't go for it, nor would the Indian people. Additionally, the steel frame bikes that Victory has are closer to 700lbs (the Vegas is 682), which is far from a middleweight bike.
     
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    Never saw that one coming, but makes complete sence. My dealer sells both Indian and Victory. I think most riders walking into a showroom undecided on which brand to buy are going to choose Indian over Victory. Sad to see them go but do think it will help the Indian brand grow. With Victory out of the picture Polaris can invest all they're resources into Indian. My bet is we will see the Indian brand expand with new models. With the right tank and fender design, I could easily see a Gunner or Highball becoming a Indian. It would certainly fit nicely in the Indian Lineup, IMO.
     
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    I did not expect that at all. The early Victory bike I was unimpressed with but the recent Vegas and Hammer looked like decent bikes.
    A lot of owners I have met like the engine. But if it makes Polaris more profitable and grows the Indian brand that is good. I hope they don't throw away a perfectly good engine design. A little re-badging and cosmetic design changes could make it fit the Indian line up.
     
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    There's a Victory dealer only three miles from me. Hopefully it will switch to Indian. There's no Indian dealer in England north of Nottingham and east of the Pennines. Leeds and Sheffield are two of the country's biggest cities, so there's a lot of riders to market to.
     
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    I'd bet if the quality and service don't get better it will.
     
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    Will Ride the wheels off my Cross Country already have 77,000 Trouble free miles, figure about half out it's useful life, maybe even get a bit more ..
     
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