2017 Victory Octane

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  1. NickJ

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    Every high-octane horsepower enthusiast is familiar with the muscle car formula: take a big motor, insert it into a lightweight chassis, then delete any creature comforts or other unnecessary accessories. What’s left is just what you need to go very fast, and nothing else.

    The all-new 2017 Victory Octane is the two-wheeled expression of that concept, with a modern twist. This is raw adrenaline that rules the streets. A 1200cc, liquid-cooled V-twin—Victory’s first-ever liquid-cooled engine—utilizes dual overhead cams and four-valve heads to rev beyond 8000 rpm and put down an authoritative 104 horsepower. That’s more horsepower than any Victory motorcycle ever built. And weighing just 528 pounds, it’s the lightest Victory motorcycle ever built, too. No surprise, then, that Octane is also the quickest Victory down the quarter-mile, and the fastest from 0-60 mph, too. And with a price starting at just $10,499, Octane runs in a class of its own.

    A stiff and light cast-aluminum frame transmits every last one of those horsepower directly to the pavement. Sharp steering geometry, a tight, 62.1-inch wheelbase and 32-degrees of available lean angle deliver agility previously unknown to American V-twin motorcycles. Muscular styling cuts an undeniably modern profile and a sportbike-inspired bullet cowl improves airflow over the rider at the triple-digit speeds Octane is built to achieve.

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    A RACE-BRED POWERTRAIN
    Developed from the Project 156 prototype that was tested at the most demanding racing event in the world—the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb™—the 60-degree V-twin features short-stroke engine geometry just like the Project 156 racer to allow higher engine rpm and more horsepower, and a quick-revving engine response more like a sportbike than any traditional American V-Twin. An electronically metered 60mm throttle body feeds high-flow, 4-valve heads operated by dual overhead cams, and liquid cooling quenches the heat that is the byproduct of generating 104 horsepower and 76 foot-pounds of tire-shredding torque. Geared short for quicker acceleration, Octane can sprint down the quarter-mile in 12 seconds and rush from 0-60 mph in less than four seconds. With the heart of a racer, Octane has power to burn.

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    A STIFF AND SOLID CHASSIS
    Raw power is only half the musclebike equation. You also need a solid chassis that can transmit all that power to the pavement and also hold a tight line when bent into a corner. Octane’s solid-mounted powertrain is a stressed member that connects cast-aluminum front and rear frame sections, with twin tubular-steel backbones for added reinforcement. This rigid assembly is suspended up front by a 41mm fork equipped with dual-rate springs for solid front-end feedback over any type of pavement, and out back with stylish laydown shocks mounted 53 degrees off-horizontal, also equipped with preload-adjustable dual-rate springs. Oversized, 298mm disc brakes with stainless-steel lines at both ends wait at-the-ready for those rare occasions when you want to shed speed, instead. Cast aluminum, 10-spoke wheels are sized and shod for sure-footed handling. The 18-inch front wheel wears 130/70-18 rubber, while the 17-inch rear wheel is wrapped with a 160/70-17 tire. A low-slung solo saddle that rides just 25.9-inches above the pavement, an equally low pullback handlebar and semi-forward-set foot controls create a riding position that looks properly badass but still provides adequate support when the rider grabs a big handful of throttle and the bike wants to rocket off the line.

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    SHARP-EDGED STYLING
    There are no smooth, flowing lines here. Octane is the most aggressive Victory motorcycle ever built, and the styling has been revised to suit with harder lines, sharper creases, a more-pronounced center spine and other details that make Octane look leaner and meaner than any American motorcycle ever before. The bullet cowl is standard equipment and screams to oncoming traffic that this bike is built for speed—the only thing other riders are going to see is the LED taillight disappearing into the distance. Chrome won’t get you home, so there’s hardly any shiny stuff on Octane. The bulk of the chassis, running gear and powertrain are blacked-out, and Matte Super Steel Gray bodywork looks all business. Even the tank badge has been cast in gray instead of the traditional Victory red to create a modern, monochrome look.

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    THE MODERN AMERICAN MUSCLEBIKE
    Based off a proven Polaris platform, Octane uses a significant number of unique parts specifically designed and engineered to deliver the high-performance, raw-adrenaline riding experience Victory riders demand. With a high-revving engine character and surprising high-rpm power hit, it behaves more like a sportbike than any American V-twin that has come before. With unexpectedly low weight and lots of available lean angle, a well-ridden Octane will embarrass many replica-racers down a twisty stretch of pavement. And with pricing starting at just $10,499, it’s less expensive than most supersports—and tougher looking, too. Fast, capable, stylish and affordable, Victory’s Octane is the formula for the Modern American Musclebike.
     
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    Pretty impressive. I suspect it will steal a lot of Scout sales.
     
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    I don't think so actually. They are after different buyers. Indian buyers are interested in heritage and Vic buyers are more modern. Will it steal a few sales? Sure, but not a ton.
     
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    Seems they upped the displacement slightly for more down low grunt. 104 hp is far below what the masses were hoping. I think 120 was the general consensus before release.

    Not to sound negative, as it's been mentioned before.. But I was hoping for a more standard setup along with performance. That way it wouldn't seem like a rebadged Scout. A lot of us old V-twin guys are still fans of lightweight Standards (Bonnies, Bmw, Guzzies, etc..). Sure this will be another bike that takes out the Sportster in every way. I guess that's IS important. I dunno. Just my thoughts.
     
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    first reaction from several Victory owners over here :

    . disappointed since it << looks like a copy of the Scout>>

    . <<104 hp only i.e. no real power improvement can't be qualified as a real muscle bike>>

    ...since they expect Victory to differentiate significantly vs Indian i.e. more sport and powerful and the comparison to some extend is even done with Ducati X-Diavel 156 hp and the Yam v-Max 200 hp.
     
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    I thought it was going to be a Ducati style bike around 130 to 150 HP with all the go fast parts like Dual Disc brakes up front inverted forks ABS, Tachometer. But like a lot of people I was WRONG ! lol
     
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    What was the highest performing small cruiser prior to the Octane? The Scout. Also that Indian heritage that so many speak of? A lot of it was built on racing. You could argue that Indian of Springfield never built cruisers, it built standards, dirt bikes, and sport bikes, those categories just looked different in the 20s, 30s, and 40s. I don't want heritage or performance, I want both, and if Indian won't sell it to me, Triumph will.
     
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    I agree, well, not about Triumph, but why does one brand have to be nostalgia driven and the other brand for performance? o_O

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    Me too. How they went from the 156 to this doesn't make sense. I get the Scout motor, but in a copy-cat cruiser Scout frame? The performance is only marginally better, and it's an uglier bike, available in 1 drab color. Sure lower price point, but if price is an issue get the 60. I too was expecting a Ducati contender with this motor tuned up and in a sportbike frame. It seems it was teased as that by Victory marketing. A Scout clone? No thanks. A 156 clone, count me in.
     
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    Excellent Point but don't expect it for 10,499 .. Told my Victory Dealer long ago that Victory or even Indian now for that Matter that they should have some Options to improve Performance and Handling .. and not those cheesy Stage 1 Slip On's with a useless Flash ..
     
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    The P156 bike was built for engine testing during a HARSH race. Everyone is fixating on that bike instead of the 2 bikes that came after. The P156 bike talked about the motor. The other two were "concept bikes" that look a hell of a lot alike and also a lot like the production Octane.
     
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    I hesitate to jump in on this discussion and don't want to sound like I'm speaking for others on this thread, but I believe some of the friendly "disappointment" might parallel my reasons for a degree of disappointment. I realize the concept bikes are great to look at and even provoke the promise of high performance, but unlike the auto industry that spec's their concept cars (and often outsource the construction), Polaris increased our expectations for a higher performance bike with the P156 than what they decided to produce. The P156 is the real factory sponsored "concept" bike that raised our pulse for an American high performance sport bike. The brakes, suspension and riding position (NO forward placed foot controls) of the P156 are what I expected with the Octane. Yes, it will cost more, but that is OK...I and I'm sure many others are willing to pay for what we want in an OEM engineered and tested high performance bike. Instead, we are again relegated to the aftermarket for the pieces to build the "promise" of a street legal P156; replacing the drab paint (though many may like the flat gray) and modifying/fabricating the fuel tank to increase capacity. In the final analysis, I am not looking for a "cheap" or inexpensive high performance motorcycle...that does not exist in the real world...maybe my definition of high performance is a little "old fashioned".

    I hope Polaris will get around to offering a "legal" P156? Lastly, this is my opinion and remember...to each his/her own. So, no flaming PLEASE.
     
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    Will get no flaming from me NP .. Think many were disappointed from the Hype that Polaris seemed to promise the Octane would be a Razzle Dazzle Kick Ass Machine Out the Door ... Far from it ..
     
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    I was thinkng along the lines of a Ducati DivialX . Sone of the marketing can be misleading like the marketing for the Impulse, its nowhere close to the Electric Motorcycle that was raced at the Isle of Man TT

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